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<blockquote data-quote="Vyvyan Basterd" data-source="post: 5879382" data-attributes="member: 4892">I didn't use &quot;Elven Cleric&quot; as a reason why any rule was bad. I used it as an example of a restriction put in place by the rules without a good reason explaining it.You then compared my example to a monstrosity example that no one would actually create. That's the strawman.&quot;To &quot;attack a straw man&quot; is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the &quot;straw man&quot;), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.&quot;You equated your fictional monstrosity with a race and class combination actually played by people in subsequent editions and that most people would consider reasonable.You could do anything to any system ever made, so there are no problems with any of them. They are all equally perfect because you can do whatever you want to them. End Internet.&quot;Hey y'all we can stop arguing now! The internet is over!!!&quot; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm&nbsp; &nbsp; :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vyvyan Basterd, post: 5879382, member: 4892"] I didn't use "Elven Cleric" as a reason why any rule was bad. I used it as an example of a restriction put in place by the rules without a good reason explaining it. You then compared my example to a monstrosity example that [B]no one[/B] would [I]actually[/I] create. That's the strawman. "To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position." You equated your fictional monstrosity with a race and class combination actually played by people in subsequent editions and that most people would consider reasonable. You could do anything to any system ever made, so there are no problems with any of them. They are all equally perfect because you can do whatever you want to them. End Internet. "Hey y'all we can stop arguing now! The internet is over!!!" :hmm: [/QUOTE]

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