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<blockquote data-quote="FreeTheSlaves" data-source="post: 5885837" data-attributes="member: 9952"><p>But what has that to do with them in combat when their opponent drops their guard?</p><p></p><p>If the fighter is quick enough to take advantage & run them through, surely the Paladin isn't a slouch in this department? I could well imagine a frenzied Barbarian would hack a bit more if the opponent began to rout.</p><p></p><p>Saying 'fighter only' doesn't make sense when what we're talking about combatants dropping their guard for whatever reason in melee.</p><p></p><p>If you are saying fighters can train in techniques to further punish foes who drop their guard, I'm fine with that. I'd add that this training should be accessible to any melee character - we are talking non-magical training here. On the other hand I am also open to and support the idea that due to extensive specialized martial training, the Fighter is more easily able to reach their fighting potential sooner. </p><p></p><p>I'd imagine that their would be grand mastery techniques accessible to the very skilled, and the fighter would generally begin these before the other melee classes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FreeTheSlaves, post: 5885837, member: 9952"] But what has that to do with them in combat when their opponent drops their guard? If the fighter is quick enough to take advantage & run them through, surely the Paladin isn't a slouch in this department? I could well imagine a frenzied Barbarian would hack a bit more if the opponent began to rout. Saying 'fighter only' doesn't make sense when what we're talking about combatants dropping their guard for whatever reason in melee. If you are saying fighters can train in techniques to further punish foes who drop their guard, I'm fine with that. I'd add that this training should be accessible to any melee character - we are talking non-magical training here. On the other hand I am also open to and support the idea that due to extensive specialized martial training, the Fighter is more easily able to reach their fighting potential sooner. I'd imagine that their would be grand mastery techniques accessible to the very skilled, and the fighter would generally begin these before the other melee classes. [/QUOTE]
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