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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5153963" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>Actually, the fact that conjurations have to explicitly be told they don't occupy a square infers that otherwise, they would.</p><p></p><p>Let's extend the logic tho.</p><p></p><p>Phasing allows you to pass through obstacles and other creatures.</p><p></p><p>Obstacles are considered elements of an encounter in the same vien as traps and hazards--see p 27 of the DMG. Walls are not on the same order as traps and hazards, and therefore are not obstacles unless they can be overcome through some sort of skill test. </p><p></p><p>Therefore, phasing does not allow you to pass through them, and whether they occupy a square is irrelevant; a phasing creature cannot enter them and therefore cannot end their movement in them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See? That doesn't make sense. A 'the rules only say precisely what they say' argument doesn't really work here. A more reasonable argument is that, yes, a physical element of blocking terrain that does occupy the square its in.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Walls being what they are tho, there's nothing in the rules that say walls do or do not occupy the square. That leaves it for the DM to decide 'Yes this wall does occupy this square.' Some walls might be of the sort phasing can end in, some walls might not be. This is <strong>entirely</strong> the realm of DM discretion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5153963, member: 71571"] Actually, the fact that conjurations have to explicitly be told they don't occupy a square infers that otherwise, they would. Let's extend the logic tho. Phasing allows you to pass through obstacles and other creatures. Obstacles are considered elements of an encounter in the same vien as traps and hazards--see p 27 of the DMG. Walls are not on the same order as traps and hazards, and therefore are not obstacles unless they can be overcome through some sort of skill test. Therefore, phasing does not allow you to pass through them, and whether they occupy a square is irrelevant; a phasing creature cannot enter them and therefore cannot end their movement in them. See? That doesn't make sense. A 'the rules only say precisely what they say' argument doesn't really work here. A more reasonable argument is that, yes, a physical element of blocking terrain that does occupy the square its in. Walls being what they are tho, there's nothing in the rules that say walls do or do not occupy the square. That leaves it for the DM to decide 'Yes this wall does occupy this square.' Some walls might be of the sort phasing can end in, some walls might not be. This is [b]entirely[/b] the realm of DM discretion. [/QUOTE]
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