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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 6772560" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned the obvious here. Read the 4th oath tenet"Restitution: If my foes wreak ruin on the world, it is because I failed to stop them. I must help those harmed by their misdeeds."It isn't super clear cut and easy to adjudicate, but the 4th part of the oath is clearly meant to reign the Vengeance paladin in. It informs the player and DM that the paladin is not all about destroying the enemy, he cares about those harmed, about the innocents. So, can they torture someone, sure, but they aren't going to burn down a village normally.Now, I also think the OP and the player realize that "Alcohol" would not normally be the "Greater Evil" in the DnD world... which actually leads to an interesting point. "Fight the Greater Evil: Faced with a choice of fighting my sworn foes or combating a lesser evil, I chose the Greater Evil." The oath never states what to do when confronted with a greater evil than your sworn foe directly, but if that last statement is taken literally then they always fight the bigger threat. So perhaps your paladin continues his campaign against Alcohol, but when a portal to hell opens up in the mountains he has to pack up and head that way. Just because he didn't swear to fight demons does not mean he isn't obligated to, after all the 4th Tenet points to the overall goal being the protection of the world and its people, simply through the preliminary destruction of threats rather than the reactionary method most Paladins would otherwise adopt. There are your Oath reasons to reign them in and prevent them from "justifying anything" Justifying a lot, sure that's the point to prevent the bad guy from "surrendering" to spare his own life, but not anything goes</blockquote>

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