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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6772707" data-attributes="member: 6799649">You don't have to be good to be OoV; you can even be evil.The reverse is also true: being an OoV paladin, and fighting what you consider to be the 'greater evil', in no way prevents your alignment from sliding to Evil.Redacted by moderator......but I digress.In game, a creature's alignment changes over time, in response to what the creature actually does. OoV doesn't prevent that. If the problem paladin has CG written on his sheet, rub it out and replace it with CN, and let the player know that it will change to CE (or back to CG, or stay CN) depending entirely on the character's actions, and the PC believing he is doing good is neither here nor there.BTW, OoV paladins are prepared to do evil so that good people don't have to. He should be aware that he is doing evil, but even if he fools himself that he is 'good', his actions are what determines his alignment, not his thoughts.If you have an evil PC, it doesn't matter if that PC is a paladin or not; it's the same problem. How do you usually deal with evil PCs in a good party? Do that!Mod Note: Discussion of real-world political topics is restricted to the OT forum, in threads specifically tagged as Religion or Politics.  Please keep it out of other threads.  Thanks.  ~Umbran </blockquote>