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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CyanideSprite" data-source="post: 6773154" data-attributes="member: 6798894">Look, how many times do I have to say it for it to come across? His crusade isn't the problem. The consequences that befall him for acting in his tenets are.It's not that he wants to be a spotlight hog, it's that by acting in his tenets it happens naturally with the consequences of them that don't specifically target him. If he had to deal with divine retribution, waning powers, or something damning from having a forced alignment change, that would be one thing. But it's not as far as I can tell.The player isn't being a "dink". Didn't I just tell you that? I'm pretty sure I just told you that... a lot. He's just following his class's tenets and that's bringing about these issues.I'm fighting against the same 3 people who keep coming in here and insist on seeing what they want to see while refusing to listen to the issue of personal consequences in lieu of attacks against my player who is role playing just fine. People like Eltab, Gyor, and Lowkey have brought good perspectives in here, while I seem to have to repeat the same thing over and over to others. If you want to defend Oath of Vengeance, fine, let's have that discussion. Otherwise, if you have specific rules to point toward for specific consequences or anything that has been misread about the Oath of Vengeance Paladin instead of going off topic and calling my player a "dink", then I would love to hear that and be glad to discuss it.</blockquote>

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