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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 5924464" data-attributes="member: 20323">Yeah, I tried my best to word it as objectively as possible, but of course everything is shades of grey, and matter of degree. Not at all, I do get what [MENTION=8858]hafrogman[/MENTION] pointed out - the survival of D&D is a huge contribution! The point of this thread is that my memory is imperfect and I'm not as hardcore of a gamer as other folks here who have been more keyed into the successes/failings of WotC's public relations. I'm not interested in vilifying WotC nor Hasbro, and neither am I interested in a shouting match. I want to hear objective (as objective as possible) insights from gamers more in the loop than I. And, yes, I'm mainly interested in the negatives for the purposes of this thread - that's my personal bias - but my OP made it clear that I wasn't artificially constraining the conversation to just negatives.Fair enough?</blockquote>