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Obligatory dump stats in 4e: the irrelevance of Intelligence
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<blockquote data-quote="gribble" data-source="post: 4261115" data-attributes="member: 12430"><p>I think you're missing the point a bit. It's not so much that Dex is superior to Int for a fighter/rogue/ranger (which it clearly is because of the bonus to initiative), it's more that having a high Dex makes Int completely irrelevant. The converse is true for wizards/warlords/warlocks - they want a high Int, which makes Dex completely irrelevant (I'll grant that in this case there is still a minimal reason to increase Dex - initiative). The same is true for Cha/Wis - if you have one high there is little reason to have anything but an 8 in the other.</p><p>At least high Str/Con give you other bonuses not directly related to skills/hit/damage (carrying capacity and hp/healing surges) - IMO the designers dropped the ball by not doing the same for the other abilities.</p><p></p><p>This, of course, is purely from an optimisation perspective and ignores roleplaying considerations or dipping into stats for particular skills, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gribble, post: 4261115, member: 12430"] I think you're missing the point a bit. It's not so much that Dex is superior to Int for a fighter/rogue/ranger (which it clearly is because of the bonus to initiative), it's more that having a high Dex makes Int completely irrelevant. The converse is true for wizards/warlords/warlocks - they want a high Int, which makes Dex completely irrelevant (I'll grant that in this case there is still a minimal reason to increase Dex - initiative). The same is true for Cha/Wis - if you have one high there is little reason to have anything but an 8 in the other. At least high Str/Con give you other bonuses not directly related to skills/hit/damage (carrying capacity and hp/healing surges) - IMO the designers dropped the ball by not doing the same for the other abilities. This, of course, is purely from an optimisation perspective and ignores roleplaying considerations or dipping into stats for particular skills, etc. [/QUOTE]
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