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<blockquote data-quote="John Low" data-source="post: 5593364" data-attributes="member: 6677986"><p>A suicidal female demon queen of depression and desire ruling a layer called the sighing cliffs, and a female demon queen of depression and of the suicidal ruling a city that regularily falls down a cliff ?</p><p>I thought that was more than a coincidence.</p><p></p><p>That's true that one can easily have two minor demons lords concerned with the self-destructive. But I disagree that major demons and deities could accept easily the competition of others. In FR, Lolth sent Selvetarm against the demon lord of spiders (and I vaguely remember having read that she's done the job herself, presumably in another setting).</p><p>Same for the Queen of succubi, whatever her name it's difficult to have two of them. Shami-amourae and the others would like the title but the main point of their story is that they can't claim it (yet), like grazz't can't claim to be the prince of demons.</p><p>The simple solution is to change it in one's campaign, demoting one or the other, but the choice is difficult when their character is different.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't argue that your new nocticula is a copy of your old malcanthet, by the way, though she does sit in her throne. I actually quite like to have a major demon lord of assassins, that was lacking in the previous lists (actually no, just checked and there was one alluded to in two of your dragon articles) and that fits a succubus. That's precisely that difference that complicates the matter.</p><p></p><p>Did you choose to avoid making use of a similar name on a similar character, like what was done with Vaz'zht and Zahr'Ub-Luur, or were you forced to go further than that by a more aggressive stance from WOTC ?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Low, post: 5593364, member: 6677986"] A suicidal female demon queen of depression and desire ruling a layer called the sighing cliffs, and a female demon queen of depression and of the suicidal ruling a city that regularily falls down a cliff ? I thought that was more than a coincidence. That's true that one can easily have two minor demons lords concerned with the self-destructive. But I disagree that major demons and deities could accept easily the competition of others. In FR, Lolth sent Selvetarm against the demon lord of spiders (and I vaguely remember having read that she's done the job herself, presumably in another setting). Same for the Queen of succubi, whatever her name it's difficult to have two of them. Shami-amourae and the others would like the title but the main point of their story is that they can't claim it (yet), like grazz't can't claim to be the prince of demons. The simple solution is to change it in one's campaign, demoting one or the other, but the choice is difficult when their character is different. I wouldn't argue that your new nocticula is a copy of your old malcanthet, by the way, though she does sit in her throne. I actually quite like to have a major demon lord of assassins, that was lacking in the previous lists (actually no, just checked and there was one alluded to in two of your dragon articles) and that fits a succubus. That's precisely that difference that complicates the matter. Did you choose to avoid making use of a similar name on a similar character, like what was done with Vaz'zht and Zahr'Ub-Luur, or were you forced to go further than that by a more aggressive stance from WOTC ? [/QUOTE]
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