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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6476609" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>Let me see if I can explain this to make you understand:</p><p></p><p>1. Three players died. We would have all died but for the lucky crit.</p><p></p><p>2. The particular DM that ran the encounter is by many considered a Monty Haul DM. He rarely kills anyone. His campaigns are generally considered easy. It's rare he kills players. He killed three members of a five party group without even trying that hard.</p><p></p><p>3. Concentration was broken by well-timed use of the breath weapon. Hard to make concentration checks with the breath bringing the pain. More <em>fly</em> spells would have helped if your casters are alive after the breath weapon. It's very hard to provide resistance to breath weapon damage for an entire group. <em>Protection from energy</em> is concentration. If you buff with <em>fly</em> or <em>bless</em>, no energy protection. No energy protection means breath weapons hammers casters. Dragon moves to target casters early knowing how to break concentration. How do you protect dragons from a smart dragon while your martial engage? Missile weapons would have done more damage quicker, but they wouldn't have killed him before he unleashed on us.</p><p></p><p>4. I do agree missile weapons would have made it much easier. Not thrown weapons so much given the dragon's ability to impair visibility and movement. But bows would have torn it up. Archery in this game is the best fighting style.</p><p></p><p>Dragons are rough. Their mobility makes them quite powerful. I imagine you will have to be there. Our experience made them quite tough. The DM had to play the dragon getting into melee with the paladin to give him a shot. If he had ruthlessly made the dragon make perfect tactical decisions every round, I don't think we live.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6476609, member: 5834"] Let me see if I can explain this to make you understand: 1. Three players died. We would have all died but for the lucky crit. 2. The particular DM that ran the encounter is by many considered a Monty Haul DM. He rarely kills anyone. His campaigns are generally considered easy. It's rare he kills players. He killed three members of a five party group without even trying that hard. 3. Concentration was broken by well-timed use of the breath weapon. Hard to make concentration checks with the breath bringing the pain. More [I]fly[/I] spells would have helped if your casters are alive after the breath weapon. It's very hard to provide resistance to breath weapon damage for an entire group. [I]Protection from energy[/I] is concentration. If you buff with [I]fly[/I] or [I]bless[/I], no energy protection. No energy protection means breath weapons hammers casters. Dragon moves to target casters early knowing how to break concentration. How do you protect dragons from a smart dragon while your martial engage? Missile weapons would have done more damage quicker, but they wouldn't have killed him before he unleashed on us. 4. I do agree missile weapons would have made it much easier. Not thrown weapons so much given the dragon's ability to impair visibility and movement. But bows would have torn it up. Archery in this game is the best fighting style. Dragons are rough. Their mobility makes them quite powerful. I imagine you will have to be there. Our experience made them quite tough. The DM had to play the dragon getting into melee with the paladin to give him a shot. If he had ruthlessly made the dragon make perfect tactical decisions every round, I don't think we live. [/QUOTE]
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