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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6477404" data-attributes="member: 5834">It is better than sight. It does function around physical objects. Does echolocation function around physical objects? Smell? Hearing? So yes, it is better than sight because it functions without any of the limitations of sight. Absent further explanation, it operates better than any single sense. It is an enhanced sense that allows you to perceive far beyond common senses.So yes, you are correct. I'm saying it is much, much better than sight. That's what makes it so hard to defeat.Echolocation as an example does not somehow change how it works. That is only on example. The Blindsight rule is very general. Unless the description in the creature provides ways to stealth around their version of Blindsight, not sure why it matters. Can you explain why it matters? I'm not in anyway saying a DM can't allow Stealth if he feels a particular form of it can work against echolocation or other vibration in the air detection. I'm saying the rule itself is general and allows sight of unseen things including stealthing creatures within range. It does absent further explanation.It's plain what it does. You are attempting to interpret it as allowing things it doesn't. Nowhere does it say you can Stealth against Blindsight. Yet Truesight explains it does not work against mundane means of hiding such as Stealth. Why wouldn't Blindsight take the time to explain the same thing if you could Stealth against it?</blockquote>

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