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<blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 6484993" data-attributes="member: 6778044"><p>I disagree with this. Blindsight simply says they can perceive their surroundings without relying on sight. Depending on the circumstances I would certainly give the Dragon advantage on their opposed Perception check but it's not an automatic thing.</p><p></p><p>For most creatures that ability is the result of exceptional senses such as hearing and smell. In some cases (such as pit vipers) it's the ability to detect heat at close range, and many creatures can detect vibrations. But all of these are generally less precise than sight except at closer ranges. The only type of Blindsight that I'd say is as reliable, if not more so, than sight is echolocation.</p><p></p><p>But for simplicity's sake, we have one rule - Blindsight. Each DM/group is going to have to interpret a rule such as this on their own, but characters (and monsters) in my campaign you usually have some chance, no matter how small, to succeed.</p><p></p><p>And yes, the rules state for sight 'you can't hide from a creature that CAN see you' but I read that as 'DOES' because in my experience, just because you can doesn't mean you do. I was at an office recently where they were installing new A/C components on a roof right outside the window of the office, and I thought that it would be cool to move those things with the very large crane that was there. I was literally sitting right next to the window. A client came in with a question and we had a short conversation, and in the midst of it I was about to point out they were going to move the A/C in a moment and we looked out the window and they were already done.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, I agree that a battle with a dragon should be very, very difficult. That's the way it should be. The only thing that disappoints me about the 5e dragons is that they don't have immunity or at least resistance to nonmagical weapons. At least they don't in the MM, as for my campaign.</p><p></p><p>Of course that also means that suit of dragonscale plate you fashion after slaying the dragon confers the same benefit...</p><p></p><p>Ilbranteloth</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ilbranteloth, post: 6484993, member: 6778044"] I disagree with this. Blindsight simply says they can perceive their surroundings without relying on sight. Depending on the circumstances I would certainly give the Dragon advantage on their opposed Perception check but it's not an automatic thing. For most creatures that ability is the result of exceptional senses such as hearing and smell. In some cases (such as pit vipers) it's the ability to detect heat at close range, and many creatures can detect vibrations. But all of these are generally less precise than sight except at closer ranges. The only type of Blindsight that I'd say is as reliable, if not more so, than sight is echolocation. But for simplicity's sake, we have one rule - Blindsight. Each DM/group is going to have to interpret a rule such as this on their own, but characters (and monsters) in my campaign you usually have some chance, no matter how small, to succeed. And yes, the rules state for sight 'you can't hide from a creature that CAN see you' but I read that as 'DOES' because in my experience, just because you can doesn't mean you do. I was at an office recently where they were installing new A/C components on a roof right outside the window of the office, and I thought that it would be cool to move those things with the very large crane that was there. I was literally sitting right next to the window. A client came in with a question and we had a short conversation, and in the midst of it I was about to point out they were going to move the A/C in a moment and we looked out the window and they were already done. Having said that, I agree that a battle with a dragon should be very, very difficult. That's the way it should be. The only thing that disappoints me about the 5e dragons is that they don't have immunity or at least resistance to nonmagical weapons. At least they don't in the MM, as for my campaign. Of course that also means that suit of dragonscale plate you fashion after slaying the dragon confers the same benefit... Ilbranteloth [/QUOTE]
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