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<blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 6617572" data-attributes="member: 413"><p>I think for my group they were extremely lucky to have survived. They knew the dragon was there. They knew the giant spiders were there along with zombies. They decided to clear the town of zombies and spiders before worrying about the dragon but they weren't being particularly subtle...like they thought the dragon would just hang out in its tower while a party of adventurers ran amok in its town.... </p><p></p><p>I had decided the dragon noticed them when they first entered the town and used shatter on a group of twig blights and that she wasn't going to just sit back and wait. She would have decided right then and there they were a threat. </p><p></p><p>She saw them go talk to the druid then she watched them engage the spiders and zombies and cluster up and she decided to hit them with her breath to weaken them then let the spiders and zombies finish them off if they survived. As she approached she was trying to be stealthy but she rolled badly enough that one PC happened to notice her and she failed to notice the gnome Arcane Trickster hiding nearby. As she closed in for a breath attack that would have devastated most of the party the brave gnome hit her with Tasha's and dropped her. Had she made that save events would have gone quite differently, I think. Several of the party members had less than 20 hp at that moment...Even a save would not have allowed them to remain conscious (I think one PC was already unconscious due to a crit from a zombie that popped up after they started fighting the spiders). </p><p></p><p>We had a similar incident with a Arcanist Mind Flayer. The party had managed to corner it and silence it and destroyed most of it's minions that were with it but it had a large contingent of bugbears and hobgoblins nearby so it was going to dimension door to get behind them...a good use of Counterspell ended that plan. It only had a 25% chance of working. It didn't survive another round...(proof that all mages should have Misty Step prepared! Another 30 feet and it likely would have gotten away). Had it gotten away the party would have been facing 5 bugbears, 8 Hobgoblins and an angry, invisible Mind Flayer with spells like confusion, fear, and it's Mind Blast....dang counterspell ruined my fun.</p><p></p><p>And that is what I love about 5e. My players are feeling pretty invincible right now. They have no idea how lucky they've been. Their luck will run out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Uller, post: 6617572, member: 413"] I think for my group they were extremely lucky to have survived. They knew the dragon was there. They knew the giant spiders were there along with zombies. They decided to clear the town of zombies and spiders before worrying about the dragon but they weren't being particularly subtle...like they thought the dragon would just hang out in its tower while a party of adventurers ran amok in its town.... I had decided the dragon noticed them when they first entered the town and used shatter on a group of twig blights and that she wasn't going to just sit back and wait. She would have decided right then and there they were a threat. She saw them go talk to the druid then she watched them engage the spiders and zombies and cluster up and she decided to hit them with her breath to weaken them then let the spiders and zombies finish them off if they survived. As she approached she was trying to be stealthy but she rolled badly enough that one PC happened to notice her and she failed to notice the gnome Arcane Trickster hiding nearby. As she closed in for a breath attack that would have devastated most of the party the brave gnome hit her with Tasha's and dropped her. Had she made that save events would have gone quite differently, I think. Several of the party members had less than 20 hp at that moment...Even a save would not have allowed them to remain conscious (I think one PC was already unconscious due to a crit from a zombie that popped up after they started fighting the spiders). We had a similar incident with a Arcanist Mind Flayer. The party had managed to corner it and silence it and destroyed most of it's minions that were with it but it had a large contingent of bugbears and hobgoblins nearby so it was going to dimension door to get behind them...a good use of Counterspell ended that plan. It only had a 25% chance of working. It didn't survive another round...(proof that all mages should have Misty Step prepared! Another 30 feet and it likely would have gotten away). Had it gotten away the party would have been facing 5 bugbears, 8 Hobgoblins and an angry, invisible Mind Flayer with spells like confusion, fear, and it's Mind Blast....dang counterspell ruined my fun. And that is what I love about 5e. My players are feeling pretty invincible right now. They have no idea how lucky they've been. Their luck will run out. [/QUOTE]
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