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<blockquote data-quote="tomBitonti" data-source="post: 6330457" data-attributes="member: 13107"><p>In 3.5E, being a necromancer who raised / summon undead was by definition evil. But, you could be a necromancer who studied ways to defeat undead. Creepy, but not necessarily evil.</p><p></p><p>The question of whether casting spells with the <em>Evil</em> descriptor was necessarily evil, independent of the final end to which the spells were used, has arisen my my games. I've always said yes, but have gotten into arguments over this question. Once the first question is asked (is casting a spell with the Evil descriptor evil?), then there is quickly a second question: What happens when a player carefully balances <em>Good</em> spells with <em>Evil</em> spells?. The case that was most prevalent was using Summon Monster and selecting creatures from the Evil sub-lists. One player figured they were alright to summon such creatures, with the <em>Evil</em> keyword only showing what alignment was present on the summoned creatures, while I thought that summoning an Evil creature was evil, with alignment consequences. We fortunately never had to confront the question with me as GM and the other person as player.</p><p></p><p>In my Eberron campaign, I tried to present a group of Warforged who were using undead more or less as machinery, with the reasoning that that was how they were treated in the Last War. The players saw things differently, so the dilemma was mostly washed over, but I thought the parallel was interesting.</p><p></p><p>Scarred Lands had a city of necromancers.</p><p></p><p>Thx!</p><p></p><p>TomB</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tomBitonti, post: 6330457, member: 13107"] In 3.5E, being a necromancer who raised / summon undead was by definition evil. But, you could be a necromancer who studied ways to defeat undead. Creepy, but not necessarily evil. The question of whether casting spells with the [i]Evil[/i] descriptor was necessarily evil, independent of the final end to which the spells were used, has arisen my my games. I've always said yes, but have gotten into arguments over this question. Once the first question is asked (is casting a spell with the Evil descriptor evil?), then there is quickly a second question: What happens when a player carefully balances [i]Good[/i] spells with [i]Evil[/i] spells?. The case that was most prevalent was using Summon Monster and selecting creatures from the Evil sub-lists. One player figured they were alright to summon such creatures, with the [i]Evil[/i] keyword only showing what alignment was present on the summoned creatures, while I thought that summoning an Evil creature was evil, with alignment consequences. We fortunately never had to confront the question with me as GM and the other person as player. In my Eberron campaign, I tried to present a group of Warforged who were using undead more or less as machinery, with the reasoning that that was how they were treated in the Last War. The players saw things differently, so the dilemma was mostly washed over, but I thought the parallel was interesting. Scarred Lands had a city of necromancers. Thx! TomB [/QUOTE]
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