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<blockquote data-quote="Urbannen" data-source="post: 4068065" data-attributes="member: 7643"><p>Let me just say that if you were facing this party in combat, there is no way that you would focus your attacks on some bat flying around. I can't imagine a time when the enemy would go after the bat, and even if they did, it currently has 41 hp and can fly. No missile attack could take him down through damage alone (although drow poison might do it). And since I don't think every WotC splatbook is canon, there are no "earthbind" spells available for me to vent my ire with.</p><p></p><p>And when I say "nerf his special ability", what I mean is that I'm not going to go out of my way to give enemies special ways of avoiding blindsense just so I can nerf the bat's abilities because I want to punish the player for messing up my plan. </p><p></p><p>Essentially, there is a difference of philosophy here. My vision of the game design is that only spellcasters can get familiars (or animal companions), not non-spellcasters. The published classes I've seen with these abilities support this vision. I consider any class level that doesn't grant spellcasting as an example of a non-spellcaster: Hexblade 1-3, Ranger 1-3, Spellsword 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, etc. If someone knows of a published WotC class that grants a familiar or animal companion for non-spellcasting class levels, please let me know!</p><p></p><p>To grant familiar (or animal companion) benefits to non-spellcasting class levels is a big shift in game philosophy, IMO, and this change is not even explicitly commented on in the feat. I see no reason to change this basic design. VETO familiar improvement from non-spellcasting levels. /edit/ But the feat itself is otherwise OK and would work fine for bards and pure arcane-casting PrCs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Urbannen, post: 4068065, member: 7643"] Let me just say that if you were facing this party in combat, there is no way that you would focus your attacks on some bat flying around. I can't imagine a time when the enemy would go after the bat, and even if they did, it currently has 41 hp and can fly. No missile attack could take him down through damage alone (although drow poison might do it). And since I don't think every WotC splatbook is canon, there are no "earthbind" spells available for me to vent my ire with. And when I say "nerf his special ability", what I mean is that I'm not going to go out of my way to give enemies special ways of avoiding blindsense just so I can nerf the bat's abilities because I want to punish the player for messing up my plan. Essentially, there is a difference of philosophy here. My vision of the game design is that only spellcasters can get familiars (or animal companions), not non-spellcasters. The published classes I've seen with these abilities support this vision. I consider any class level that doesn't grant spellcasting as an example of a non-spellcaster: Hexblade 1-3, Ranger 1-3, Spellsword 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, etc. If someone knows of a published WotC class that grants a familiar or animal companion for non-spellcasting class levels, please let me know! To grant familiar (or animal companion) benefits to non-spellcasting class levels is a big shift in game philosophy, IMO, and this change is not even explicitly commented on in the feat. I see no reason to change this basic design. VETO familiar improvement from non-spellcasting levels. /edit/ But the feat itself is otherwise OK and would work fine for bards and pure arcane-casting PrCs. [/QUOTE]
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