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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 3144018" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p>Obyriths are the first fiends of the Abyss, (one of) the ancient creations of the Baernaloths (the first fiends). Their counterparts in Baator are known as the Ancient Baatorians (and there's some similar alien flavor to them as well.</p><p></p><p>Obyriths represent and embody a form of primordial Chaotic Evil that tends to be virtually inconceivable by mortals, maddening and sanity draining by its purity. They're the scions of malignant chaos as it existed prior to mortal life and the influence of mortal belief, and so in that sense it presents to mortals as alien and wrong in many ways, thus causing madness. Their 'wrongness' is one of hideous purity of a fundamental part of reality in one of its most raw forms.</p><p></p><p>The Far Realms on the other hand is another reality altogether, divorced from and possible not even having the same abstract alignments as the Great Wheel. It's not chaotic, not in the sense as we understand Chaos; and for all we know it's a realm of harsh and utterly strict Law, just a version so different from that of the Great Wheel as to be unrecognizable. Its 'wrongness' is by virtue of being based on principles different from and perhaps nonexistant in the Great Wheel, for being utterly removed from the conceptions of any creature from our multiverse (and likewise the Great Wheel is the same to beings from the Far Realm; they're mutually anathemic realities).</p><p></p><p>There's some atmosphere similarities on the surface, but the root cause of each are subtly but importantly different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 3144018, member: 11697"] Obyriths are the first fiends of the Abyss, (one of) the ancient creations of the Baernaloths (the first fiends). Their counterparts in Baator are known as the Ancient Baatorians (and there's some similar alien flavor to them as well. Obyriths represent and embody a form of primordial Chaotic Evil that tends to be virtually inconceivable by mortals, maddening and sanity draining by its purity. They're the scions of malignant chaos as it existed prior to mortal life and the influence of mortal belief, and so in that sense it presents to mortals as alien and wrong in many ways, thus causing madness. Their 'wrongness' is one of hideous purity of a fundamental part of reality in one of its most raw forms. The Far Realms on the other hand is another reality altogether, divorced from and possible not even having the same abstract alignments as the Great Wheel. It's not chaotic, not in the sense as we understand Chaos; and for all we know it's a realm of harsh and utterly strict Law, just a version so different from that of the Great Wheel as to be unrecognizable. Its 'wrongness' is by virtue of being based on principles different from and perhaps nonexistant in the Great Wheel, for being utterly removed from the conceptions of any creature from our multiverse (and likewise the Great Wheel is the same to beings from the Far Realm; they're mutually anathemic realities). There's some atmosphere similarities on the surface, but the root cause of each are subtly but importantly different. [/QUOTE]
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