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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6929078" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Well, by the reading of the spell, it doesn't seem terribly difficult to free him by casting the spell yourself. </p><p></p><p>You need to know the "nature and contents" of a demiplane to connect to it, if you haven't created it yourself.</p><p></p><p>This can go one out of two ways:</p><p></p><p>The DM plays by the spirit of this passage, clearly intending the demiplane to be reachable by other casters. Or the DM can easily be obstructive, rules-lawyering away any chances of ever activating this passage in practical play. </p><p></p><p>This is because "nature and contents" is left completely undefined. How precise do you need to be?</p><p></p><p>If I can create my demiplane and then throw in an extra bathing duck that everyone needs to specify as part of the contents of the room, then that will effectively act as a key or password preventing access.</p><p></p><p>But if the DM is okay with me just saying "I open a demiplane to General Zods prison" then there's little security. Or if I can trivially use divination magic to get a list of "what objects are in Zod's room" and then demiplane to "the room with Zod and a bathing duck".</p><p></p><p>I guess what I'm saying is that before I'd use this spell to trap General Zod, I'd first have a talk with the DM about how easy or hard it is to learn the "nature and contents" of a demiplane you didn't create yourself...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 6929078, member: 12731"] Well, by the reading of the spell, it doesn't seem terribly difficult to free him by casting the spell yourself. You need to know the "nature and contents" of a demiplane to connect to it, if you haven't created it yourself. This can go one out of two ways: The DM plays by the spirit of this passage, clearly intending the demiplane to be reachable by other casters. Or the DM can easily be obstructive, rules-lawyering away any chances of ever activating this passage in practical play. This is because "nature and contents" is left completely undefined. How precise do you need to be? If I can create my demiplane and then throw in an extra bathing duck that everyone needs to specify as part of the contents of the room, then that will effectively act as a key or password preventing access. But if the DM is okay with me just saying "I open a demiplane to General Zods prison" then there's little security. Or if I can trivially use divination magic to get a list of "what objects are in Zod's room" and then demiplane to "the room with Zod and a bathing duck". I guess what I'm saying is that before I'd use this spell to trap General Zod, I'd first have a talk with the DM about how easy or hard it is to learn the "nature and contents" of a demiplane you didn't create yourself... [/QUOTE]
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