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<blockquote data-quote="CasvalRemDeikun" data-source="post: 6041780" data-attributes="member: 83969"><p>In answer to DEFCON's question, as to why the current playtest sucks. First off, I don't think WotC is actually that interested in fan input. This is evidenced by their tampering with polls early on, namely the poll that had what casting style people preferred. Initially, pre-tampering, Vancian casting was being walloped by AEDU and Spell Point. Then, the polls were mysteriously reset, and the outcome narrowly favored Vancian casting. Given their paradigm of Vancian Wizard or No Wizard that they held for the longest time, I think they were convinced that the polls HAD to be wrong. Only after two playtests worth of people calling them on their bullskite did they change that though, saying somewhere down the road we would see alternate magic systems as a module.</p><p> </p><p>Now, I do think one major problem they face is that a lot of people use the Comments section of the surveys as a soapbox to air everything they find distasteful about the playtest, whether relavent to the survey at hand or not. I know I do, and I am willing to bet that I am not the only one. The problem this creates is multifold. Firstly, a wall of text is hard to get information from sometimes, especially if it is a rant. Second, there are 70,000 walls of text to sift through. And third, all of those walls of text could have very different wants and desires for the playtest.</p><p> </p><p>So, this leads to why I think the playtest sucked. First, they get bombarded with information from the fans, both through forums and their surverys. Second, the information is likely conflicted with itself, due to several different subsets of the fandom (not necessarily separated by edition, BTW). Third, if the information conflicts with their design paradigm, they have demonstrated before that they are willing to toss it out. So essentially, they are getting a lot of information that they are perfectly willing to ignore. This is why the playtest sucked.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CasvalRemDeikun, post: 6041780, member: 83969"] In answer to DEFCON's question, as to why the current playtest sucks. First off, I don't think WotC is actually that interested in fan input. This is evidenced by their tampering with polls early on, namely the poll that had what casting style people preferred. Initially, pre-tampering, Vancian casting was being walloped by AEDU and Spell Point. Then, the polls were mysteriously reset, and the outcome narrowly favored Vancian casting. Given their paradigm of Vancian Wizard or No Wizard that they held for the longest time, I think they were convinced that the polls HAD to be wrong. Only after two playtests worth of people calling them on their bullskite did they change that though, saying somewhere down the road we would see alternate magic systems as a module. Now, I do think one major problem they face is that a lot of people use the Comments section of the surveys as a soapbox to air everything they find distasteful about the playtest, whether relavent to the survey at hand or not. I know I do, and I am willing to bet that I am not the only one. The problem this creates is multifold. Firstly, a wall of text is hard to get information from sometimes, especially if it is a rant. Second, there are 70,000 walls of text to sift through. And third, all of those walls of text could have very different wants and desires for the playtest. So, this leads to why I think the playtest sucked. First, they get bombarded with information from the fans, both through forums and their surverys. Second, the information is likely conflicted with itself, due to several different subsets of the fandom (not necessarily separated by edition, BTW). Third, if the information conflicts with their design paradigm, they have demonstrated before that they are willing to toss it out. So essentially, they are getting a lot of information that they are perfectly willing to ignore. This is why the playtest sucked. [/QUOTE]
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