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<blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 2838999" data-attributes="member: 18363"><p>If a troll succeeds with two attacks there is a free rend associated with it. If - due to some odd template - the troll has four arms, and it attacks with all four arms, it gets two free rends. The rend is automatic bonus damage that is considered part of the two claw strike damages. </p><p></p><p>If a rogue is making a sneak attack with two weapons, and its target is flat-footed, flanked, or otherwise susceptible to sneak attack damage, both weapons cause SA damage. The bonus damage is considered part of the weapon's normal attack. </p><p></p><p>In the same manner as the prior two examples the constrict damage is considered automatic bonus damage should the grapple check succeed. And as the grapple is automatic should the tentacle succeed in striking the target, the constrict could be considered bonus tentacle damage. If the <em>following</em> round all eight tentacles are still constricting, then roll a combined constrict damage. That is to say, if the constrict is 1d6, then you would roll 8d6 the next round if all eight tentacles are still constricting the single target. </p><p></p><p>The octopus / squid is dangerous verse small groups and leathal verse one opponent if it manages to successfully strike and grapple with all eight tentacles. But why would it focus all of its tentacles on a single target? Like the hydra, each tentacles can strike a different target - so long as the target is within reach. If a PC rushed in ahead of the rest of the party and was hit with all eight before the party could arrive as backup, then the PC deserves what it received. </p><p></p><p>The latter option. You must free yourself from each tentacle, so each one requires a separate grapple check. Note, however, that the creature only has eight tentacles, and it can only attack with tentacles or bite. An average eight member party, therefore, is likely to see no more than 1-3 tentacles per person. So it is unlikely in the extreme that all eight would attack one person. If all eight did, then the creature would only have the bite attack to deal with the other 3+ individuals in the party - which would make it easier for the party to close in and attack it that round - which would likely cause it to release some of its grappling tentacles voluntarily just to attack those hurting it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nyeshet, post: 2838999, member: 18363"] If a troll succeeds with two attacks there is a free rend associated with it. If - due to some odd template - the troll has four arms, and it attacks with all four arms, it gets two free rends. The rend is automatic bonus damage that is considered part of the two claw strike damages. If a rogue is making a sneak attack with two weapons, and its target is flat-footed, flanked, or otherwise susceptible to sneak attack damage, both weapons cause SA damage. The bonus damage is considered part of the weapon's normal attack. In the same manner as the prior two examples the constrict damage is considered automatic bonus damage should the grapple check succeed. And as the grapple is automatic should the tentacle succeed in striking the target, the constrict could be considered bonus tentacle damage. If the [i]following[/i] round all eight tentacles are still constricting, then roll a combined constrict damage. That is to say, if the constrict is 1d6, then you would roll 8d6 the next round if all eight tentacles are still constricting the single target. The octopus / squid is dangerous verse small groups and leathal verse one opponent if it manages to successfully strike and grapple with all eight tentacles. But why would it focus all of its tentacles on a single target? Like the hydra, each tentacles can strike a different target - so long as the target is within reach. If a PC rushed in ahead of the rest of the party and was hit with all eight before the party could arrive as backup, then the PC deserves what it received. The latter option. You must free yourself from each tentacle, so each one requires a separate grapple check. Note, however, that the creature only has eight tentacles, and it can only attack with tentacles or bite. An average eight member party, therefore, is likely to see no more than 1-3 tentacles per person. So it is unlikely in the extreme that all eight would attack one person. If all eight did, then the creature would only have the bite attack to deal with the other 3+ individuals in the party - which would make it easier for the party to close in and attack it that round - which would likely cause it to release some of its grappling tentacles voluntarily just to attack those hurting it. [/QUOTE]
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