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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 6763007" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>He's most certainly non-lawful. However, he doesn't act Chaotically - he's <em>consistently</em> self-serving. He will follow the law when it's beneficial to him - or the risk is too great - and eschew it as soon as he thinks he can get away with it. That's a pretty good definition of Neutral.</p><p></p><p>As to kindness and compassion, anyone can display that, especially when it's in their own best interest; such as it's better to have Odo and the others on the station as his friends, rather than enemies. (Which is a good example of how to play an evil character in a good-aligned game group.)</p><p></p><p>And never forget, Quark placed very little value on Rom's life - his own brother - purposely and casually putting Rom in jeopardy in order to advance his own schemes, and did so more than once. That's pretty Evil.</p><p></p><p>However, as with real-people, Quark is not always consistent with a narrow categorization like Alignment. Yes, he's shown kindness and compassion. He has also shown undeniable Evilness. </p><p></p><p>So, if one had to try and quantify Quark by alignment, I'd say Neutral Evil - or True Neutral at best.</p><p></p><p>As for Odo, we agree on Lawful, but I think he's also Good. He has an unwavering respect for Life and Fairness - for that which is Just and Right - though he has to repress this while surviving in the literal and morally gray world of Cardassian Rule, and it carries over into his initial dealings with the Federation until he realizes it's safe to openly espouse it.</p><p></p><p>But of course, our disagreement highlights the fools errand that is trying to categorize fictional characters by alignment (let alone trying to categorize real people that way).</p><p></p><p>Which is why I said in my post:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This discussion also highlights that Alignment is not a rigid categorization meant to absolutely define a character or confine a character to a certain range of behavior. It is merely a tool to help each player envision their own character, and not to be used by other players to judge other's adherence to alignment. The components of Alignment are too subjective from person to person to be a true and universal definition. For instance, you use Quark's culture as a reference point, but to other cultures his behavior is Evil. Varying based on point of view proves its subjectiveness. </p><p></p><p>That also means that being a neutral evil assassin isn't necessarily <em>"one step removed from a mass murderer."</em> That is one potential possibility within neutral evil, but by no means the only one.</p><p></p><p>Cheers.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 6763007, member: 59506"] He's most certainly non-lawful. However, he doesn't act Chaotically - he's [I]consistently[/I] self-serving. He will follow the law when it's beneficial to him - or the risk is too great - and eschew it as soon as he thinks he can get away with it. That's a pretty good definition of Neutral. As to kindness and compassion, anyone can display that, especially when it's in their own best interest; such as it's better to have Odo and the others on the station as his friends, rather than enemies. (Which is a good example of how to play an evil character in a good-aligned game group.) And never forget, Quark placed very little value on Rom's life - his own brother - purposely and casually putting Rom in jeopardy in order to advance his own schemes, and did so more than once. That's pretty Evil. However, as with real-people, Quark is not always consistent with a narrow categorization like Alignment. Yes, he's shown kindness and compassion. He has also shown undeniable Evilness. So, if one had to try and quantify Quark by alignment, I'd say Neutral Evil - or True Neutral at best. As for Odo, we agree on Lawful, but I think he's also Good. He has an unwavering respect for Life and Fairness - for that which is Just and Right - though he has to repress this while surviving in the literal and morally gray world of Cardassian Rule, and it carries over into his initial dealings with the Federation until he realizes it's safe to openly espouse it. But of course, our disagreement highlights the fools errand that is trying to categorize fictional characters by alignment (let alone trying to categorize real people that way). Which is why I said in my post: This discussion also highlights that Alignment is not a rigid categorization meant to absolutely define a character or confine a character to a certain range of behavior. It is merely a tool to help each player envision their own character, and not to be used by other players to judge other's adherence to alignment. The components of Alignment are too subjective from person to person to be a true and universal definition. For instance, you use Quark's culture as a reference point, but to other cultures his behavior is Evil. Varying based on point of view proves its subjectiveness. That also means that being a neutral evil assassin isn't necessarily [I]"one step removed from a mass murderer."[/I] That is one potential possibility within neutral evil, but by no means the only one. Cheers.:) [/QUOTE]
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