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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ivanova_Valenkov" data-source="post: 1266157" data-attributes="member: 11580">I have 2 questions concerning building a player class, and its impact on ECL..1st Scenario:Lets start with a clean slate, pure unfettered humaniod. All stats 10, not penalties or bonuses, medium size. Now, suppose I tack on a penalty. Specifically, lets remove all vocal capabilities:Can't cast certain spells.VERY hard to communicate.Some skills useless (in most circumstances) like bluff, diplomacy etc..Can't activate some magical items.What would the ECL be for this character, as I think it would open up some very interesting role-playing..2nd Scenario:Lets start with another clean slate.. you get the drill. The penalty would be a dietary one. Things like the following come to mind (these are seperate scenarios--all of these limitations at once would be ridiculous!):Can't drink water--poisionous; instead you must drink oil, or blood.Must consume a large portion of sulphur (much as we must eat sodium to live).Must consume the flesh of fey.Well, I hope to see some interesting answers.. Thank you in advance.</blockquote>