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"Oddities" in fantasy settings - the case against "consistency"
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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 9253305" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>No, it's not.</p><p></p><p>You see the assumption you just made here? You've compared two extremes, instead of people with "relatively" comparable amounts of experience who've come to different conclusions. Now try to define "relatively" in the previous context in any objective way (i.e. by attaching a number, percentage, ratio, etc. to it). It should become obvious why that's not a helpful line of dialogue.</p><p></p><p>For instance, I can infer that, if I said I had hundreds of hours playing storytelling games, you'd quiz me on which games, how their mechanics work, how long those campaigns lasted, etc. Which is otherwise known as gatekeeping. But that's my inference leading me to pass judgment on you as a person, rather than letting you speak for yourself, and is a good reason not to decide that you know some aspect of someone because of what you've "inferred" about them.</p><p></p><p>No, I'm asserting that the inferences that you've admitted to making are your own judgments, which bare little experience to my own reality, and that then turning around and comparing what you think you know about me to what you know about [USER=6785785]@hawkeyefan[/USER] and their experiences only says something about you, not me. I've repeatedly talked about my own experiences, and the futility of someone saying that they have X hours more experience than me, and so I should sit back and accept what they say as truth (in a matter of personal opinion, no less). Telling someone else that their opinion is facile, and they should sit down, be quiet, and learn from people who know better isn't useful when the issue is one of personal opinion and preference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 9253305, member: 8461"] No, it's not. You see the assumption you just made here? You've compared two extremes, instead of people with "relatively" comparable amounts of experience who've come to different conclusions. Now try to define "relatively" in the previous context in any objective way (i.e. by attaching a number, percentage, ratio, etc. to it). It should become obvious why that's not a helpful line of dialogue. For instance, I can infer that, if I said I had hundreds of hours playing storytelling games, you'd quiz me on which games, how their mechanics work, how long those campaigns lasted, etc. Which is otherwise known as gatekeeping. But that's my inference leading me to pass judgment on you as a person, rather than letting you speak for yourself, and is a good reason not to decide that you know some aspect of someone because of what you've "inferred" about them. No, I'm asserting that the inferences that you've admitted to making are your own judgments, which bare little experience to my own reality, and that then turning around and comparing what you think you know about me to what you know about [USER=6785785]@hawkeyefan[/USER] and their experiences only says something about you, not me. I've repeatedly talked about my own experiences, and the futility of someone saying that they have X hours more experience than me, and so I should sit back and accept what they say as truth (in a matter of personal opinion, no less). Telling someone else that their opinion is facile, and they should sit down, be quiet, and learn from people who know better isn't useful when the issue is one of personal opinion and preference. [/QUOTE]
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