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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5792748" data-attributes="member: 19675">Ummm..you're just a tad confused.While I allow nearly anything- with prior approval- the standard 3.5Ed setup in our group is PHB + first 4 Completes only; no Psionics, no Dragon, no campaign sourcebooks, no MIC, no Spell Compendium, no ToB, etc.  Compared to the body of what WotC actually published, that's pretty tight.While our gaming group is large (12 at its peak), the most we've had active in any one campaign was 8 (5 is more typical).  Even so, 5-6 at the table on game night is typical- everyone is a working adult, we're geographically scattered over 4 counties, and all but 3 of us are married with kids.Our die-rolled PCs have their share of single digit stats.  In some campaigns- not the RttToEE- the stats were rolled in order.  In RttToEE, my ultra-multiclassed PC's stats averaged out to 13 each at 1st level.  Hardly über.And the DM started the RttToEE in 3Ed, then when a particular player joined, the entire group switched to 3.5Ed...and while we did that, he redid the remaining encounters with 3.5Ed critters.You're dead wrong.When I retired my 10th level Diviner/Ftr/Rgr/SpSwd from the RttToEE campaign, his best magic item was a +2 Flaming Whip.  His next best was a plain vanilla +2 Shortsword, which he dual wielded with the whip.  Hardly high-powered.The rest of the party included a single classed wizard, a single classed fighter, a Ftr with 2 clc levels, a rogue with 1 Sorc level, a Barb with a few Druid levels, and a monk.  At 2 different points in the game, we had a guy play a straight Favored Soul for about 4 sessions, and after he left, another guy played a Druid for about 4 sessions.And as stated before, not everyone shows up every session.  Because of scheduling issues, we play if 5 show.  Whatever 5 we get.And we still had to fight the doomspeakers, demonic dinosaurs, big-ass elementals and so forth.</blockquote>

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