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Message: <blockquote data-quote="andargor" data-source="post: 1835288" data-attributes="member: 7231">In our last game, we encountered an Augmented Noble Salamander (Huge Noble Salamander with 10 Fighter levels)The Salamander hit an adjacent greater invisible character with its tail (successfully passed miss chance), and started a grapple using its Improved Grab ability. It dealt Constrict damage at that time. In the next round, the DM ruled that the Salamander could uncoil its tail to allow an attack from its +3 Longspear on the grappled character, and that the character was pinned. The character continued to get Constrict damage as well. The character was immune to Fire, so that didn't apply. For the next rounds, the same scenario was repeated.It was pointed out to the DM that:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Salamander was attacking with a +3 Longspear, which cannot be used in adjacent square or the same square. The DM replied that the Salamander uncoiled its tail sufficiently to allow an attack from the +3 Longspear, and that it was a shorter version allowing such an attack.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A grappling creature cannot attack its victim with a weapon that is not Light.  Same reply from the DM, that it was a shorter version allowing such an attack.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A pin has to be rolled each round. We did not do this (not DM's fault either).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A pinned character cannot be attacked by the grappler with a weapon. The DM replied that it could do so.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Salamander had to move into the character's space to maintain the grapple (Step 4 in the grapple procedure), and that the +3 Longspear could not be used. Hence, if it uncoiled its tail, the character would no longer be grappled. The DM replied that those rules must only apply to humanoid characters, and that it would be logical for such a creature to do so.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The character was greater invisible, and hence would still benefit from the 50% miss chance from the attacks. The DM allowed this, but was doubtful as he indicated the character was being dragged and soiled with dirt so that the Salamander would not have a miss chance.</li> </ul>Understanding that the DM can change the rules to whatever he wishes, the DM however does not believe that he used house rules in this situation. The group believes otherwise.We have therefore resolved to ask the EN World community to comment on the above situation, and indicate if any house rules were being used so that we may better handle future encounters of the kind.Andargor</blockquote>

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