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<blockquote data-quote="Uvenelei" data-source="post: 357309" data-attributes="member: 2533"> MORE SPOILERS - VAUGER THAN BEFORE, BUT STILL THEREThe way it played out was that &quot;they&quot; were already in the barn when he entered - he was worried about the horses escaping again, so he checked on them before going to sleep. He slept in the hay loft above the horses - he wanted to avoid staying in town lest he have nightmares as well, and didn't stay in Othic's house as another PC did. We he fell asleep, &quot;they&quot; used their power to control him to roll out of the loft and stay still. He failed both saves, the first one and the 'actions against his will' save, so they CDG'ed him. This was around midnight; the later, preplanned murder happened around 4:00 when Othic came in to let the horses out to graze.I didn't give the PC a listen check, because he was controlled before he had much of a chance to hear anything. And &quot;they&quot; may have enjoyed taunting him before killing him, but they realized that it's easier to taunt a helpless foe than a ready foe.I really didn't want to kill him, but I couldn't come up with a rational explanation as to why &quot;they&quot; would let him live after he failed twice to maintain control of his actions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uvenelei, post: 357309, member: 2533"] [B] MORE SPOILERS - VAUGER THAN BEFORE, BUT STILL THERE[/B] The way it played out was that "they" were already in the barn when he entered - he was worried about the horses escaping again, so he checked on them before going to sleep. He slept in the hay loft above the horses - he wanted to avoid staying in town lest he have nightmares as well, and didn't stay in Othic's house as another PC did. We he fell asleep, "they" used their power to control him to roll out of the loft and stay still. He failed both saves, the first one and the 'actions against his will' save, so they CDG'ed him. This was around midnight; the later, preplanned murder happened around 4:00 when Othic came in to let the horses out to graze. I didn't give the PC a listen check, because he was controlled before he had much of a chance to hear anything. And "they" may have enjoyed taunting him before killing him, but they realized that it's easier to taunt a helpless foe than a ready foe. I really didn't want to kill him, but I couldn't come up with a rational explanation as to why "they" would let him live after he failed twice to maintain control of his actions. [/QUOTE]

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