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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fanboy2000" data-source="post: 5964270" data-attributes="member: 19998">MSU's Wikipedia page doesn't mention their 8.5 miles steam tunnels at all, even on the page dedicated to describing the physical campus. Somethings, universities would rather you "discover on your own." Once your there, after you've already paid your tuition. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The jives with my own antidotal evidence of the last time I heard someone talk about playing D&D in a live action context. The events in the book happened in 1979, the book was published in 1984. FWIW, The last of the three AD&D 1e books was published in 1979. The book Mazes and Monsters came out in 1981, and the TV Movie came out in 1982. Patricia Pulling's son, Irving, committed suicide in 1982. In 1984, Lorraine Williams was hired by TSR.So, I think we're dealing with a transitional period in D&D. The transition from D&D to AD&D, the end of it's first boom, and by '84 Pulling is just starting to really cause TSR serious problems. (She formed Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons in '83.)I think you've hit it on the head. Now that we're all on the other side of the D&D is occult and such, few people want to admit to acting it out.The book I read shows MSU had strong motivations for denying that students went down into the tunnels. They were dangerous, so they didn't want to be responsible for any harm they came to. Also, people were using them to commit crimes (burglary, for example). Given that student's weren't allowed down there, none of them wanted to admit that they went down there. (Of course they clearly did. Tables with paper-mache heads and signs that read "Please wait to be seated" don't show up in steam tunnel alcoves by themselves.)If this is indicative of what happened at other schools, I wouldn't be surprised.Yep. First you get called wimps for using fake swords, then you get called crazy for using the real deal. It almost like they don't understand the appeal!</blockquote>

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