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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Myth and Legend" data-source="post: 5334780" data-attributes="member: 82679">Monk is bad, out of the Core classes he is right at the bottom with Fighter. Losing caster levels for Monk levels is quite bad, especially since every feature you can point out for Monk i can show you a spell that does better (except Wis to AC but i can get higher AC as Wizard 20 for example)Some of the good Arcane spellcasting classes:Incantatrix - broken goodDweomerkeeper - broken goodInitiative of Sevenfold Veil - borderline broken goodHathran (Witch of Rashemen) - good (but female only)Abjurant Champion - no drawbacks, good if you want BAB. Make sure you take Greater Luminous Armour as the Mage Armor line is not Abjuration.There are others. Read up <a href="http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19861838/Sorcerer_Prestige_Classes_with_Full_Caster_Progression" target="_blank">here</a>.And that, of course, is strictly power-wise. But with so many melee characters, and HM keeping it very low on character wealth, even with 8th level spells you will still outshine everyone. Naturally though, getting to CLVL20 will take around 10 years real world time for PbP...</blockquote>