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<blockquote data-quote="Zerith" data-source="post: 5450799" data-attributes="member: 99953"><p>The Natural shapeshifter feat, if used at level one the feat (or at any level before gaining animal hit dice)</p><p></p><p>Allows the character to</p><p>A: Turn into a hybread with claw/bite attacks</p><p>or</p><p>B: turn into its respective animal’s form, Thus acquiring natural attacks and, in the case of a cheetah, wolf, etc; 20’ more speed. (original base 30’ to 50’) but retains the character’s original stats</p><p></p><p>Also, until it acquires the benefits from the base Animal’s Racial hit dice, it dose Note gain any stat modes, special qualities, it also does not grant any feats, hit dice, etc. (anything not mentioned in the above examples is identical to the base creature’s normal form)</p><p>So while Natural shapeshifter is, presently, unlimited, the resulting animal form is weaker off bat, but once the character starts getting animal hit dice it starts getting stat bonuses in its animal and hybrid forms; the special qualities, as per normal Lycanthropes, are usable in all forms, but they are granted wholly by the animal hit dice and not this feat.</p><p> </p><p>At the first animal hit dice the forms grant Str +2, and Dex +4 (1/3 the bonus)</p><p>At the second animal hit dice the forms grant Str +4, Dex +6, and Con +2 (2/3 the bonus)</p><p>At the third hit dice the forms grant Str +6, Dex +8, and Con +4 (the full bonus)</p><p>I’ll again note these bonuses are reliant on gaining the animal’s hit dice, so again, not gained simply by the feat itself.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> [FONT=&quot]</p><p>As for the replace aspect: one of the things the first level adjustment gives is Alternate form. Alternate Form makes Natural shapeshifter redundant; they both do the same, exact, thing. So when the character gets Alternate form proper, Natural shapeshifter is, at the same time removed, and replaced by a new feat as level up.</p><p></p><p>The general idea with it is barrowing Alternate Form from the level adjustment will laying down a feat slot as the collateral. And when that level adjustment is attained the loan is more or less paid and the collateral given back (and thus replaced by another feat)</p><p></p><p>As I’ve said before, I plan on him being a full blooded Lycanthrope but I also know that just starting out as ECL 7 is, given the RP’s lay out, asinine, selfish, unfair, unsporting, and, let’s not forget, rude to anyone who has worked their way past level one.</p><p></p><p>__</p><p></p><p>And about one – Is this referring to feats as per wild shape or as per a Lycanthrope’s Alternate Form? (that the feat is based on)</p><p>And inset fast movement as class feature and not a feat? </p><p></p><p>Also, if all feats are replaced by the animal's feats, would that not mean that the feat allowing the character to change back would also be removed for the duration of the wild shape?</p><p>--</p><p>Also, yep, rogue, whoops ^^;</p><p>[/FONT]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zerith, post: 5450799, member: 99953"] The Natural shapeshifter feat, if used at level one the feat (or at any level before gaining animal hit dice) Allows the character to A: Turn into a hybread with claw/bite attacks or B: turn into its respective animal’s form, Thus acquiring natural attacks and, in the case of a cheetah, wolf, etc; 20’ more speed. (original base 30’ to 50’) but retains the character’s original stats Also, until it acquires the benefits from the base Animal’s Racial hit dice, it dose Note gain any stat modes, special qualities, it also does not grant any feats, hit dice, etc. (anything not mentioned in the above examples is identical to the base creature’s normal form) So while Natural shapeshifter is, presently, unlimited, the resulting animal form is weaker off bat, but once the character starts getting animal hit dice it starts getting stat bonuses in its animal and hybrid forms; the special qualities, as per normal Lycanthropes, are usable in all forms, but they are granted wholly by the animal hit dice and not this feat. At the first animal hit dice the forms grant Str +2, and Dex +4 (1/3 the bonus) At the second animal hit dice the forms grant Str +4, Dex +6, and Con +2 (2/3 the bonus) At the third hit dice the forms grant Str +6, Dex +8, and Con +4 (the full bonus) I’ll again note these bonuses are reliant on gaining the animal’s hit dice, so again, not gained simply by the feat itself. [FONT="] As for the replace aspect: one of the things the first level adjustment gives is Alternate form. Alternate Form makes Natural shapeshifter redundant; they both do the same, exact, thing. So when the character gets Alternate form proper, Natural shapeshifter is, at the same time removed, and replaced by a new feat as level up. The general idea with it is barrowing Alternate Form from the level adjustment will laying down a feat slot as the collateral. And when that level adjustment is attained the loan is more or less paid and the collateral given back (and thus replaced by another feat) As I’ve said before, I plan on him being a full blooded Lycanthrope but I also know that just starting out as ECL 7 is, given the RP’s lay out, asinine, selfish, unfair, unsporting, and, let’s not forget, rude to anyone who has worked their way past level one. __ And about one – Is this referring to feats as per wild shape or as per a Lycanthrope’s Alternate Form? (that the feat is based on) And inset fast movement as class feature and not a feat? Also, if all feats are replaced by the animal's feats, would that not mean that the feat allowing the character to change back would also be removed for the duration of the wild shape? -- Also, yep, rogue, whoops ^^; [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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