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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zerith" data-source="post: 5454826" data-attributes="member: 99953">Well, that I’ve proposed, I think, is ECL neutral, at level 1 he is just trading a feat for alternate form (without most of its boons, could make it so the hybrid form dos not add natural weapons yet if balance in an issue there) and then he just acquires the proper benefits as he levels up. So, for example, assuming from here on the character only tries to attain his full lycanthropic heritage as quickly as possible, he would, by the time Gareth hit level 7 (assuming the both got EXP at the same rate) the character I’m proposing would have the first class level (rogue) 3 animal levels, and three level adjustments, level 4 with an ECL of 7. ETC 7 to ETC 7. At what point he would basically be a normal Lycanthrope. But I think he would be gaining: Animal Level, Level Adjustment, Class Level, Animal Level, Level Adjustment, Class Level, etc. until he got to ECL 9 (Character level 6) at which point he would be full on ‘Lycanthrope Levels’.But before that, he would have a fractional amount of the benefits acquired by Lycanthropes proportional to the levels he has acquired towards that end; IE, at level up he could get an animal level, granting a share of the animal depended benefits; a Level Adjustment, granting a share of Lycanthrope dependant benefits, or a class level as normal, and only ever one their of, were in what I’m proposing would he get a sudden bonus larger than another character gains? From what I've heard (Lycanthropes being a bit weak next to other PCs) would be getting arguably less until he could pay off some of his level advancements (possible, at character level 12 (ECL 15) 18 (ECL 20) and 21 (ECL 22). [Although, I might see if we can arrange buying them off sooner than at those points, and if so it would be something like paying the EXP cost of buying them off at the respective levels (would be 14,000, 19,000, and 21,000 respectively I think)]    [FONT=&quot]So in short, it would kind of be breaking it down into a class; it tallies up as generic lycanthropes without the need of trying to see what class trait is equivalent to what Lycanthropic ability and maintains an ECL that is the same as an other character of his EXP, and I’ve broken it up so each level is about as valuable as any other level. (The damage reduction would be broken in half and gained from the last two level adjustments, for example.) So I’m failing to see where he would be gaining powers to quick. :\Also: You’ve still not answered the question! >_<When you said the feats were replaced were you talking about with Wild shape or Alternate form?[/FONT]</blockquote>

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