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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HolyMan" data-source="post: 5454847" data-attributes="member: 84167">You would retain no feats either way, as I see it. But I do not know the exact wording on alternate form, wild shape list that you can change back as a standard action.You have to understand that this isn't a standard style game also. When it comes to treasure and such ,so everyone is on the low end of the spectrum for there character lvl this along with your "crunch only" proposal is why I would wish to do this a step at a time. If I were to see a reason behind wanting to play a lycanthrope other than you will get all these neat abilities I would be more for this. But the fact that I have 5th lvl characters playing right now who only have one magic item per se and the house rules for high stat buy in, DB, extra skill points per lvl, and an extra +2/+2 feat are based on people playing humans without many abilities. Giving you those plus the other would make your character crunch-wise more powerful, over time I agree, but still in the end.Your best way is to swap abilities and limit the shape changing. I don't believe I can allow a full lycanthrope in a game like this.HM</blockquote>