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<blockquote data-quote="Zerith" data-source="post: 5549205" data-attributes="member: 99953"><p>Ack, stuff only happens if I don't look! T_T</p><p>That said, Alexander is a Noble and ya, Don't expect Mr McSneaky from him, well, mental expect Mr McSneaky from him but don't worry about your coin purse :/</p><p>As for why, Level 2, 15 Diplomacy: he talks, a lot ^^;</p><p>[as I do <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f635.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="O_o" title="Er... what? O_o" data-smilie="12"data-shortname="O_o" />; ]</p><p></p><p>But I've got to comment about this even full plat armor, Is Not 'Heavy'.</p><p>50ish pounds for full plate at the high side, meanwhile present combat gear ranges from as light as 55 pounds to 77 pounds and solders can run with all that on their backs.</p><p></p><p>meanwhile the plate armor is spread over the entire body, making it relatively lighter still and much easier to maneuver in then the before mentioned combat gear. contrary to popular belief, the largest drawback to plate armor, aside from the cost, that was less then chain mail, was how damned hot it was. not only are you in a suit of metal that gets heated by the sun, but you also have very thick cloth padding under that that makes things even more stuffy; agility was not early as effected as old style moves would have you think.</p><p></p><p>For example, it's not hard to jump (not climb, jump) into a saddle with full plate on if you're fit.</p><p>[no acrobatic nonsense here, but we are talking turn around while the guy is standing, turn back, he is riding off]</p><p></p><p>I could go on with this line of thought.</p><p>However, most people who think of the characteristics of plate armor think of Tournament armor: armor for jousting, and other 'games' was made Much thicker: no one wanted to die from a mere game and mobility, practicality, and even endurance was all but a none issue compared to raw protection; no need to runaway or give chase, did not have to be strapped into the stuff all day long, and you did not have to worry about getting killed if the other guy out lasted you. That said, even in these much heavier suits of plate armor, getting onto a horse did not need any pulleys...</p><p></p><p>In short: plate armor is not, and was not, 'clumsy' at lest not to the level that you seem to be thinking it is. the plats aren't even that thick and if it was made it so you could not move around well none would ever use it, <u>ever</u>, because the other guy would just walk around you until you tired out and then push you down and stab you in the groin</p><p>[it's one of the normal weak spots in plate armor and the largest, when capturing a knight the traditional way (to my knowledge) is to tobble the knight and then threaten the face (through the vizier) the neck, the armpits, or the groin with a dagger. the first and last were, from what I can tell, the easiest to get at, but all were deathblows.]</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>Yesh, I like meh armor, but teh arcane stuff hates it T_T</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zerith, post: 5549205, member: 99953"] Ack, stuff only happens if I don't look! T_T That said, Alexander is a Noble and ya, Don't expect Mr McSneaky from him, well, mental expect Mr McSneaky from him but don't worry about your coin purse :/ As for why, Level 2, 15 Diplomacy: he talks, a lot ^^; [as I do O_o; ] But I've got to comment about this even full plat armor, Is Not 'Heavy'. 50ish pounds for full plate at the high side, meanwhile present combat gear ranges from as light as 55 pounds to 77 pounds and solders can run with all that on their backs. meanwhile the plate armor is spread over the entire body, making it relatively lighter still and much easier to maneuver in then the before mentioned combat gear. contrary to popular belief, the largest drawback to plate armor, aside from the cost, that was less then chain mail, was how damned hot it was. not only are you in a suit of metal that gets heated by the sun, but you also have very thick cloth padding under that that makes things even more stuffy; agility was not early as effected as old style moves would have you think. For example, it's not hard to jump (not climb, jump) into a saddle with full plate on if you're fit. [no acrobatic nonsense here, but we are talking turn around while the guy is standing, turn back, he is riding off] I could go on with this line of thought. However, most people who think of the characteristics of plate armor think of Tournament armor: armor for jousting, and other 'games' was made Much thicker: no one wanted to die from a mere game and mobility, practicality, and even endurance was all but a none issue compared to raw protection; no need to runaway or give chase, did not have to be strapped into the stuff all day long, and you did not have to worry about getting killed if the other guy out lasted you. That said, even in these much heavier suits of plate armor, getting onto a horse did not need any pulleys... In short: plate armor is not, and was not, 'clumsy' at lest not to the level that you seem to be thinking it is. the plats aren't even that thick and if it was made it so you could not move around well none would ever use it, [u]ever[/u], because the other guy would just walk around you until you tired out and then push you down and stab you in the groin [it's one of the normal weak spots in plate armor and the largest, when capturing a knight the traditional way (to my knowledge) is to tobble the knight and then threaten the face (through the vizier) the neck, the armpits, or the groin with a dagger. the first and last were, from what I can tell, the easiest to get at, but all were deathblows.] ... Yesh, I like meh armor, but teh arcane stuff hates it T_T [/QUOTE]
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