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<blockquote data-quote="HolyMan" data-source="post: 4893172" data-attributes="member: 84167"><p>ok lets see:</p><p> </p><p>1.reread says no save, SR applies (thought it was saying no save no SR), but how many monsters/NPCs have an SR score so your still really saying no way to avoid it is a range attack why no evasion or save for 1/2(i.e. dropping out of the way or ducking behind someone/something)</p><p>2.it said that at 20th lvl they will have 12 invocations but it didn't list invocations or their uses per day (please say that they are not unlimited)</p><p>3.And everyone buys that cold iron longsword to keep just in case but the question is why the DR I got no flavor at Crystal Keep I'm assuming that a warlock is demon/devils related due to eldrith energy and cold iron vulnerability(and you can roll a 1 on a d12 as easily as a d6)</p><p>4.I definetly need to look at the invocations before offical ruling.</p><p>5.Not going to sell me on the unlimited uses unless you know another ability a class has that is unlimited-- rage is limited, bard song is limited , turn undead, wild shape, stunning fist, smite evil, lay on hands heck even the warrior is limited by weapons carried Why is it not a number of times per day +con mod type ability???</p><p>6.But the Rogue is a limited to the circumstances (flanking,surprise) he doesn't get it all the time if they did it would be way over powered and they are not using a touch attack (Red Dragon Great Wyrm touch AC:2 normal AC:41)</p><p> </p><p>just don't see why the class is the way it is guess i need some background/fluff for my brain to wrap around stats</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HolyMan, post: 4893172, member: 84167"] ok lets see: 1.reread says no save, SR applies (thought it was saying no save no SR), but how many monsters/NPCs have an SR score so your still really saying no way to avoid it is a range attack why no evasion or save for 1/2(i.e. dropping out of the way or ducking behind someone/something) 2.it said that at 20th lvl they will have 12 invocations but it didn't list invocations or their uses per day (please say that they are not unlimited) 3.And everyone buys that cold iron longsword to keep just in case but the question is why the DR I got no flavor at Crystal Keep I'm assuming that a warlock is demon/devils related due to eldrith energy and cold iron vulnerability(and you can roll a 1 on a d12 as easily as a d6) 4.I definetly need to look at the invocations before offical ruling. 5.Not going to sell me on the unlimited uses unless you know another ability a class has that is unlimited-- rage is limited, bard song is limited , turn undead, wild shape, stunning fist, smite evil, lay on hands heck even the warrior is limited by weapons carried Why is it not a number of times per day +con mod type ability??? 6.But the Rogue is a limited to the circumstances (flanking,surprise) he doesn't get it all the time if they did it would be way over powered and they are not using a touch attack (Red Dragon Great Wyrm touch AC:2 normal AC:41) just don't see why the class is the way it is guess i need some background/fluff for my brain to wrap around stats [/QUOTE]
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