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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gondsman" data-source="post: 5192614" data-attributes="member: 90057">HM i hate to say this but I have to side with DW on this one. like you yourself said "spells run out."  Do you really expect us to believe that it is outside the power of the DM to create encounters that will challenge even the most min/maxed character?  If you are really so worried about him casting the spell 9 times (like catching 9 guys in a fireball) put a limit on it 2/day or something and if you find out that it is in fact impossible to manipulate the game (the very job of the DM) such that it remains a challenge then you make changes later.Now part of my view on this game (which is the stance most emphasized by 4e) is that we are heroes.  Every once in a while we should get to just nail a monster to show off, that is what heroes do.Let me introduce you to <a href="http://forgottenrealms74875.yuku.com/topic/687" target="_blank">Nakor Han, Priest of Lathandar</a> talk about an overpowered cleric.  I had all 9 levels of him in an adventure with one L5 a couple of threes and ones.  After Every battle he'd automatically heal everyone up to full.  And yet, he wouldn't cast an actual spell in battle (or use his /day items) even to save his life.  Drove me crazy, even verses undead that were too powerful to turn, all he did was try to turn them, when a searing light or two would have reduced them all to so much powder.My point is, that you aren't the authority on how DW will play his character, he is.  He may get into a battle where he could blast away all 9 of those, but maybe he's smarter than you and actually realizes that "spells run out" and won't blow them all on one guy.  And if he does start to wade through people like that, blasting every enemy to ash, throw us a fire resistant baddy once in a while.  Just because you would abuse the spell doesn't mean he would, and just because you can doesn't make it smart.I see no balance issue with the spell.  That's coming from the mouth of a DM who has dealt with munchkins on a regular basis.</blockquote>

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