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OFFICAL ERRATA: Hit points *DO NOT* change in polymorph
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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 1422265" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>If the polymorph spell had originally said, "You retain your original hit points," then nobody would have even thought for an instant about applying the new constitution. It wasn't until people noticed that the line was absent from the polymorph spell description that they came to the conclusion that hit points changed. Once people adopted that position, they stuck to it, even when other people pointed out that the restriction was incorporated by reference from alter self. It is human nature to resist change. </p><p></p><p>My point is that had this language (retain your hit points) been present in the original version of the polymorph spell (instead of it being incorporated by refernce from alter self), nobody would ever have brought up the idea of changing it due to a change in constitution. Why can I be so sure of it? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT OCCURRED IN 3.0! 3.0 stated that you changed constitution, but kept your hit points. Except for the occasional newbie that failed to see the explicit line regarding hit points not changing, nobody questiones it.</p><p></p><p>Now, people question it because they have an opinion stuck in their mind. Being human, they tend to stick to that opinion far longer than the facts indicate they should. Now, some people are trying to read in a way to make the new errata/clarification irrelevant. They're making arguments that stretch and contort language away from the clear meaning. Had they been seeing this language for the first time, they would not have come to the conclusions that they cling to now.</p><p></p><p>If I have offended anyone, I appologize. I don't seek to be mean. I seek only to be direct.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 1422265, member: 2629"] If the polymorph spell had originally said, "You retain your original hit points," then nobody would have even thought for an instant about applying the new constitution. It wasn't until people noticed that the line was absent from the polymorph spell description that they came to the conclusion that hit points changed. Once people adopted that position, they stuck to it, even when other people pointed out that the restriction was incorporated by reference from alter self. It is human nature to resist change. My point is that had this language (retain your hit points) been present in the original version of the polymorph spell (instead of it being incorporated by refernce from alter self), nobody would ever have brought up the idea of changing it due to a change in constitution. Why can I be so sure of it? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT OCCURRED IN 3.0! 3.0 stated that you changed constitution, but kept your hit points. Except for the occasional newbie that failed to see the explicit line regarding hit points not changing, nobody questiones it. Now, people question it because they have an opinion stuck in their mind. Being human, they tend to stick to that opinion far longer than the facts indicate they should. Now, some people are trying to read in a way to make the new errata/clarification irrelevant. They're making arguments that stretch and contort language away from the clear meaning. Had they been seeing this language for the first time, they would not have come to the conclusions that they cling to now. If I have offended anyone, I appologize. I don't seek to be mean. I seek only to be direct. [/QUOTE]
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