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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 8053478" data-attributes="member: 14159">They might have retconned that in later, but Dark Sun was created in the 2e period, almost 20 years before the concept of &quot;primordials&quot; was introduced into D&amp;D.If there's any talk of 4e-isms like &quot;Primordials&quot; in Dark Sun lore, they weren't there already and were inserted in 2008 or later after 4e came out.The original lore for why the world was ruined wasn't about primordials.&nbsp; It began in the Blue Age about 14,000 years before the present, when Athas was mostly ocean and ruled by seafaring halflings who were druidic masters of life-shaping, who tried a ritual to bring even more life into the ocean, but it backfired, creating a toxic brown tide of deadly algae.&nbsp; The Halflings used powerful magic to destroy the brown tide, but it drained the sun from blue to yellow and burned off much of the oceans of Athas, turning it from an aquatic planet, into a verdant green world.. . .and then 6000 years later, 8000 years before the current, Rajaat discovered arcane magic and forged the unique connection to the elemental planes that let him become the first Sorcerer-King.&nbsp; The process of using Defiling magic to become immortal and creating his champions, the other Dragon Kings, scoured life and energy from the world, turning the sun from Yellow to Red, destroying almost all the remaining oceans and plant life, and creating the desolate desert world that remained. . .and then he and his champions went on genocidal purges and conquered Athas to create the oppressive tyranny that is one of the defining aspects of the setting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 8053478, member: 14159"] They might have retconned that in later, but Dark Sun was created in the 2e period, almost 20 years before the concept of "primordials" was introduced into D&D. If there's any talk of 4e-isms like "Primordials" in Dark Sun lore, they weren't there already and were inserted in 2008 or later after 4e came out. The original lore for why the world was ruined wasn't about primordials. It began in the Blue Age about 14,000 years before the present, when Athas was mostly ocean and ruled by seafaring halflings who were druidic masters of life-shaping, who tried a ritual to bring even more life into the ocean, but it backfired, creating a toxic brown tide of deadly algae. The Halflings used powerful magic to destroy the brown tide, but it drained the sun from blue to yellow and burned off much of the oceans of Athas, turning it from an aquatic planet, into a verdant green world. . . .and then 6000 years later, 8000 years before the current, Rajaat discovered arcane magic and forged the unique connection to the elemental planes that let him become the first Sorcerer-King. The process of using Defiling magic to become immortal and creating his champions, the other Dragon Kings, scoured life and energy from the world, turning the sun from Yellow to Red, destroying almost all the remaining oceans and plant life, and creating the desolate desert world that remained. . .and then he and his champions went on genocidal purges and conquered Athas to create the oppressive tyranny that is one of the defining aspects of the setting. [/QUOTE]

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