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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6326328" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Continuing my read through, Cleric seemed nice (Divine Intervention is cute). Now on Fighter, and I have to say, some nice changes, some dumb. Duelist = yay! Protection = Shield only now, despite being specifically changed FROM that in the Playtest because of complaints? Wth? Awful. Way to support all playstyles! Also Remarkable Athlete? Only think Remarkable about is how utterly terrible it is. Half (so +1 or +2 until you're level 17!) your Proficiency bonus ONLY if you don't otherwise get that bonus, on STR/DEX/CON rolls where you ALMOST CERTAINLY get that bonus because you have Athletics... Oh and a crummy bonus to running long jumps! /facepalm I guess I can see why we're going to need magic items and spells if our supposedly "Remarkable" abilities are that weak! Indomitable also got nerfed in the face. Second Wind continues to be a problem guaranteed to get house-ruled in perhaps most games.</p><p></p><p>The Brutal 2 deal for 2H weapons is an awful lot weaker than DOAM, and indeed than most other options. Certainly make some people feel better when they re-roll that 1 on a d12 Great Axe and get a 12, though. I think it boosts GS even more though, haha.</p><p></p><p>So yeah, impressed with Cleric, very unimpressed with this Fighter.</p><p></p><p>Oh bonus prize for people who hate "Martial Healing". This Fighter <em>literally</em> regenerates at level 18.</p><p></p><p>EDIT - Whoa just started Rogue and the Dex-attack-only thing has changed since the Starter Set, man! Good but surprising.</p><p></p><p>BACK TO READING RUIN!</p><p></p><p>EDIT - Okay no wait it's Finesse or Ranged only which is weird but I guess better kinda... Odd that you could use it on a STR-based throwing attack with a Throwing Axe, but NOT on a melee swing with that Throwing Axe. Poor Jean Tannen.</p><p></p><p>EDIT - Okay okay I guess I'll just keep going - Uncanny Dodge is NOICE. That's awesome, as you probably won't otherwise use your Reaction much, and it could apply to any kind of terrifying hit (from any enemy you can see - like say a dragon, or a lich or a beholder!). As we guessed from the Starter Set they get the second two boosted proficiencies at level 6, too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 6326328, member: 18"] Continuing my read through, Cleric seemed nice (Divine Intervention is cute). Now on Fighter, and I have to say, some nice changes, some dumb. Duelist = yay! Protection = Shield only now, despite being specifically changed FROM that in the Playtest because of complaints? Wth? Awful. Way to support all playstyles! Also Remarkable Athlete? Only think Remarkable about is how utterly terrible it is. Half (so +1 or +2 until you're level 17!) your Proficiency bonus ONLY if you don't otherwise get that bonus, on STR/DEX/CON rolls where you ALMOST CERTAINLY get that bonus because you have Athletics... Oh and a crummy bonus to running long jumps! /facepalm I guess I can see why we're going to need magic items and spells if our supposedly "Remarkable" abilities are that weak! Indomitable also got nerfed in the face. Second Wind continues to be a problem guaranteed to get house-ruled in perhaps most games. The Brutal 2 deal for 2H weapons is an awful lot weaker than DOAM, and indeed than most other options. Certainly make some people feel better when they re-roll that 1 on a d12 Great Axe and get a 12, though. I think it boosts GS even more though, haha. So yeah, impressed with Cleric, very unimpressed with this Fighter. Oh bonus prize for people who hate "Martial Healing". This Fighter [I]literally[/I] regenerates at level 18. EDIT - Whoa just started Rogue and the Dex-attack-only thing has changed since the Starter Set, man! Good but surprising. BACK TO READING RUIN! EDIT - Okay no wait it's Finesse or Ranged only which is weird but I guess better kinda... Odd that you could use it on a STR-based throwing attack with a Throwing Axe, but NOT on a melee swing with that Throwing Axe. Poor Jean Tannen. EDIT - Okay okay I guess I'll just keep going - Uncanny Dodge is NOICE. That's awesome, as you probably won't otherwise use your Reaction much, and it could apply to any kind of terrifying hit (from any enemy you can see - like say a dragon, or a lich or a beholder!). As we guessed from the Starter Set they get the second two boosted proficiencies at level 6, too. [/QUOTE]
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