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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6326477" data-attributes="member: 18">The MHU definitely needs to be a thing.Okay, so these blimmin' adventurers can all deadlift 300lbs+, like, unless they dumpstat STR, but the bloody wimpy quitters can only walk for 8 hrs/day before they start flopping to the ground from exhaustion? What kind of ridiculous people are these? They are doing the WRONG kind of exercise if they can deadlift 300 but can only WALK for 8 hours/day, I can tell them that. They need to get a new personal trainer, for sure.So like, according to D&D rules, I have a STR of about 8 or 9, but a CON of like, 20+, because I personally guarantee you I can walk 10-12 hours/day every damn day without ever "getting exhausted" and have been able to do so since I was 11 (and yes over rough terrain with a backpack full of stuff), but adventurers can't even manage to walk further on ROADS without being encumbered! It's DC bloody 11 to walk for 9 hours of a day instead of 8. 11! You need at least 12 CON or you USUALLY fail that! God knows what D&D thinks of marathons....EDIT - I find it even more bizarre that the speed of travel doesn't affect whether you need to make that CON check, but only whether you get a Perception penalty...EDIT - Hold the news! Maybe those trainers aren't totally awful - they trained those PCs to make (without a check!) a STR SCORE leap if they have a 10' running start! So Mrs STR 20 Fighter can straight-up running leap 20ft no check (which makes "Remarkable Athlete" even more hilariously bad). You only need to check to clear obstacles or land in bad terrain. Even no start gives Mrs STR 20 a 10ft leap. Noice. Vertical jumping she's no slouch either - assuming she's 6' tall and has a 10' run-up, she can (no check) catch on to a ledge 19ft up! With a check the DM may allow her to go higher.I guess D&D PCs have some sort of astounding STR-training regime that gimps their endurance, but perhaps that's fine. I wouldn't mind collapsing if I walked more than 8 miles/day if I could leap and grab something 19ft in the air 100% of the time!EDIT EDIT - Awwww, after interesting changes here, the falling rules are disappointingly vanilla - 1d6 per 10ft' to a max of 20d6. Hmph.</blockquote>

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