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<blockquote data-quote="evileeyore" data-source="post: 6326553" data-attributes="member: 1768">Wanna see a magic trick?<img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qO99YDXDHO8/UBBn2l5MdoI/AAAAAAAAAUk/E96ML2b20hE/s400/pencil1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />Make me explain every nit-picky way we're searching this room.&nbsp; Please.Heh.At a con I once challenged the DM to put his rules penalties where his mouth was and if we had to have penalties on our skill checks* (a 3.5 game) his monsters needed penalties on their to hit rolls if he couldn't best me in a boffer sparring match. Funny thing was, two of the other players at the table were his friends (and in his home game) and they totally backed the idea!Suffice to say he was the &quot;ideal&quot; of the worst sort of D&amp;D player, in DMing practices, hygiene, and health.* He was making the party Diplomat have to give rousing and convincing speeches, and when she failed (because she was a bit shy and not a good public speaker) the DM penalized her harshly. The Rogue had to specify how he was searching for traps, how he was disarming them, etc and also was punitively penalized for failing to &quot;describe doing it the correct way&quot;. So after an hour of this balderdash we came upon a serious fight scene (it wold have been tough but fair - I'll grant the DM he built combats well).&nbsp; So I challenged him.&nbsp; He refused and we collectively threatened to walk and cancel on him.&nbsp; At this con too many cancellations and he'd have to pay full price (DMs who ran games got in for cheap or free if they ran enough).&nbsp; He backed down and accepted the penalty... so what would have been a tough fight became a cake walk.&nbsp; And the players smiles grew in size for every mumble, grumble, and curse as he had to roll to-hits at &quot;harsh but fair&quot; penalties.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evileeyore, post: 6326553, member: 1768"] Wanna see a magic trick? [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qO99YDXDHO8/UBBn2l5MdoI/AAAAAAAAAUk/E96ML2b20hE/s400/pencil1.jpg[/IMG] Make me explain every nit-picky way we're searching this room. Please. Heh. At a con I once challenged the DM to put his rules penalties where his mouth was and if we had to have penalties on our skill checks* (a 3.5 game) his monsters needed penalties on their to hit rolls if he couldn't best me in a boffer sparring match. Funny thing was, two of the other players at the table were his friends (and in his home game) and they totally backed the idea! Suffice to say he was the "ideal" of the worst sort of D&D player, in DMing practices, hygiene, and health. * He was making the party Diplomat have to give rousing and convincing speeches, and when she failed (because she was a bit shy and not a good public speaker) the DM penalized her harshly. The Rogue had to specify how he was searching for traps, how he was disarming them, etc and also was punitively penalized for failing to "describe doing it the correct way". So after an hour of this balderdash we came upon a serious fight scene (it wold have been tough but fair - I'll grant the DM he built combats well). So I challenged him. He refused and we collectively threatened to walk and cancel on him. At this con too many cancellations and he'd have to pay full price (DMs who ran games got in for cheap or free if they ran enough). He backed down and accepted the penalty... so what would have been a tough fight became a cake walk. And the players smiles grew in size for every mumble, grumble, and curse as he had to roll to-hits at "harsh but fair" penalties. [/QUOTE]

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