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<blockquote data-quote="Morlock" data-source="post: 6326563" data-attributes="member: 6776981">Yeah, but I prefer reasoned fantasy gaming to balanced gamist fantasy gaming. E.g., &quot;what would the middle ages have looked like if dragons were real.&quot; Dragons and magic don't explain away the bits based on real life. This is not to say that I don't like players being able to build, say, barbarians who can improve their AC via class abilities, but I'd rather those abilities not be explained in ways that make the abilities seem mundane*. A character like Achilles is fine, but his mommy did dip him in a magic river. I find the &quot;it's fantasy&quot; to be a form of hand-waving. I also prefer &quot;realism&quot; as the default, where we can tweak it to be balanced with options, rather than having to house-rule our &quot;realism.&quot;*Come to think of it, I think I'd prefer classes like Barbarian done as prestige classes; at low levels, barbarians are just Fighters. At higher levels, they can PrC into something like the mystic berserkers we see in the Barbarian class.This is a meta thing for me, I guess. It's like with art, I find many artists use &quot;it's my style&quot; as a crutch. Cartoony style (for example) is fine if you can do realistic styles well. If not, style is just a crutch hiding your deficiencies. Except they're not really hidden.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Morlock, post: 6326563, member: 6776981"] Yeah, but I prefer reasoned fantasy gaming to balanced gamist fantasy gaming. E.g., "what would the middle ages have looked like if dragons [i]were[/i] real." Dragons and magic don't explain away the bits based on real life. This is not to say that I don't like players being able to build, say, barbarians who can improve their AC via class abilities, but I'd rather those abilities not be explained in ways that make the abilities seem mundane*. A character like Achilles is fine, but his mommy did dip him in a magic river. I find the "it's fantasy" to be a form of hand-waving. I also prefer "realism" as the default, where we can tweak it to be balanced with options, rather than having to house-rule our "realism." *Come to think of it, I think I'd prefer classes like Barbarian done as prestige classes; at low levels, barbarians are just Fighters. At higher levels, they can PrC into something like the mystic berserkers we see in the Barbarian class. This is a meta thing for me, I guess. It's like with art, I find many artists use "it's my style" as a crutch. Cartoony style (for example) is fine if you can do realistic styles well. If not, style is just a crutch hiding your deficiencies. Except they're not really hidden. [/QUOTE]

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