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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 6327275" data-attributes="member: 7635">Something leaped out at me discussing the rules with a friend.3e had a lot of rules that were essentially &quot;build around this&quot;. They were there for either balance or thematic reasons, but (because of the rules mastery element of 3.x) they were circumventable. For example: nobody suffered arcane spell failure; you either had ways around it (armored mage, twilight armor, spellsword) or you didn't wear armor (mage armor, canny defense, etc). Concentration was another; there were so many ways around make concentration checks (shielded casting, combat medic, reach spell) that you rarely had to make one. The effect either way was clear: spend resources (feats, spells, gold, or levels) to do what you want to do. Want to cast in armor? Spend resources and buy it off. 5e doesn't seem overly interested in that. Granted, we haven't seen the full rules yet, but it doesn't seem like its going to be full of &quot;gaps to plug&quot; like ASF. Proficient in armor? you can cast in it. Want to cast shocking grasp in melee? Go ahead! No need to multi-class, spend feats, etc, to do it. I hope that continues. I hope 5e doesn't need Mystic Theurges with Practiced Spellcaster ever.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 6327275, member: 7635"] Something leaped out at me discussing the rules with a friend. 3e had a lot of rules that were essentially "build around this". They were there for either balance or thematic reasons, but (because of the rules mastery element of 3.x) they were circumventable. For example: nobody suffered arcane spell failure; you either had ways around it (armored mage, twilight armor, spellsword) or you didn't wear armor (mage armor, canny defense, etc). Concentration was another; there were so many ways around make concentration checks (shielded casting, combat medic, reach spell) that you rarely had to make one. The effect either way was clear: spend resources (feats, spells, gold, or levels) to do what you want to do. Want to cast in armor? Spend resources and buy it off. 5e doesn't seem overly interested in that. Granted, we haven't seen the full rules yet, but it doesn't seem like its going to be full of "gaps to plug" like ASF. Proficient in armor? you can cast in it. Want to cast shocking grasp in melee? Go ahead! No need to multi-class, spend feats, etc, to do it. I hope that continues. I hope 5e doesn't need Mystic Theurges with Practiced Spellcaster ever. [/QUOTE]

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