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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7770438" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>Re the gladiator</p><p>Yes the gladiator csn take any one of their three attacks and bash...</p><p>Similar to how any 11th levrl ftr can use any of the three attacks to shove/bash someone prone then attack with advantage on the other two. </p><p></p><p>So, that common conflation is off the mark. If you got multiple attacks the first can shove.</p><p></p><p>The question is with shield master CAN you use the bonus attack to shove before your other attacks.</p><p></p><p>Here tho is my suggestion for Shield Master Bashers who really really really need to shove first then attack at will.</p><p></p><p>Take Polearm Master and use Spear or Staff.</p><p></p><p>5th level fighter with spear and PAM can use Attack Action with two attacks - first one shove then if that works then second and bonus action attack (d4) are at advantage. </p><p></p><p>Instead of getting a bonus shove you get a bonus d4 attack. </p><p></p><p>Additionally you get AO whrn folks move into range. </p><p></p><p>But you do lose the shield vs saves effects (which often get slightly dished in those discussions.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7770438, member: 6919838"] Re the gladiator Yes the gladiator csn take any one of their three attacks and bash... Similar to how any 11th levrl ftr can use any of the three attacks to shove/bash someone prone then attack with advantage on the other two. So, that common conflation is off the mark. If you got multiple attacks the first can shove. The question is with shield master CAN you use the bonus attack to shove before your other attacks. Here tho is my suggestion for Shield Master Bashers who really really really need to shove first then attack at will. Take Polearm Master and use Spear or Staff. 5th level fighter with spear and PAM can use Attack Action with two attacks - first one shove then if that works then second and bonus action attack (d4) are at advantage. Instead of getting a bonus shove you get a bonus d4 attack. Additionally you get AO whrn folks move into range. But you do lose the shield vs saves effects (which often get slightly dished in those discussions.) [/QUOTE]
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