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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7771115" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>When?</p><p></p><p>I am aware of JEC having said this in the past... but...</p><p></p><p>it did not get into the recent errata, did not make it into the recent compendium and did not make it into the live-stream devoted to bonus actions in Feb 2019.</p><p></p><p>What did make it into those was the statement about the unofficial nature of even JEC tweets.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, how many different things can you do inside of an action - between it starting and it finishing? You seem to suggest none.</p><p>Move for sure between attacks.</p><p>Cast reaction spells for sure - counterspell vs counterspell as the best example where you have a Magic missile spell being cast by Joe, a counterspell from Sam tries to stop it and Joe throws his own reaction counterspell - net result is two spent counterspells within the casting of the original Magic missile which then goes off.</p><p>There are likely plenty of other things that can be done when one starts looking at the various maneuvers and defensive reactions. </p><p></p><p>Attack, move, that movement prompts an AO, that AO prompts a reaction or bonus action, move continues etc.</p><p></p><p>There is an explicit rule specific to bonus actions that says you can take a bonus action when you want "You choose when to take a bonus action during your turn, unless the bonus action's timing is specified, and anything that deprives you of your ability to take actions also prevents you from taking a bonus action."</p><p></p><p>The revised compendium for Shield Master reads - "During your turn, you do get to decide when to take the bonus action after you’ve taken the Attack action."</p><p></p><p>So, there does not seem to have been any part of the earlier uofficial tweets "indivisible actions" brought forward into these products. </p><p></p><p>Which leaves us back to what counts as taking the attack action which is defined as making one attack.</p><p></p><p>They could have said "completed" or "all attacks of" and any number of ways to re-state that Shield master in the compendium, but they did not.</p><p>They could have chosen to add the indivisible action as a general rule, but they did not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, as of that compendium, it seems a lot like they have not carried forward the older indivisible action at all *and* have now declared the source it came from (JEC Tweets) as unofficial.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Reaction sperlls for sure</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7771115, member: 6919838"] When? I am aware of JEC having said this in the past... but... it did not get into the recent errata, did not make it into the recent compendium and did not make it into the live-stream devoted to bonus actions in Feb 2019. What did make it into those was the statement about the unofficial nature of even JEC tweets. Meanwhile, how many different things can you do inside of an action - between it starting and it finishing? You seem to suggest none. Move for sure between attacks. Cast reaction spells for sure - counterspell vs counterspell as the best example where you have a Magic missile spell being cast by Joe, a counterspell from Sam tries to stop it and Joe throws his own reaction counterspell - net result is two spent counterspells within the casting of the original Magic missile which then goes off. There are likely plenty of other things that can be done when one starts looking at the various maneuvers and defensive reactions. Attack, move, that movement prompts an AO, that AO prompts a reaction or bonus action, move continues etc. There is an explicit rule specific to bonus actions that says you can take a bonus action when you want "You choose when to take a bonus action during your turn, unless the bonus action's timing is specified, and anything that deprives you of your ability to take actions also prevents you from taking a bonus action." The revised compendium for Shield Master reads - "During your turn, you do get to decide when to take the bonus action after you’ve taken the Attack action." So, there does not seem to have been any part of the earlier uofficial tweets "indivisible actions" brought forward into these products. Which leaves us back to what counts as taking the attack action which is defined as making one attack. They could have said "completed" or "all attacks of" and any number of ways to re-state that Shield master in the compendium, but they did not. They could have chosen to add the indivisible action as a general rule, but they did not. So, as of that compendium, it seems a lot like they have not carried forward the older indivisible action at all *and* have now declared the source it came from (JEC Tweets) as unofficial. Reaction sperlls for sure [/QUOTE]
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