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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7775640" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>You keep saying this as if it means something. It really doesn't. A failure to forbid does not equate to approval. The game also fails to forbid my longsword from detonating a nuclear explosion when I strike something. Am I to believe that because the game doesn't forbid it, I can do it? That's not how games and rules work. If it's not forbidden by a rule, you still can't do it unless you can show a rule that does allow you to do it. There is no rule allowing simultaneous actions in combat. The closest you will find is the rule on Attack actions which says through it's use of "with" that the first attack happens simultaneously with the Attack action being taken.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I pointed out above, this is just wrong. I mean, there's also a complete absence of a rule forbidding my fighter from teleporting at will, or engaging a special ability to give him a billion extra hit points. According to your statement above that means he can do those things. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that Shield Master requires you to take the Attack action first, which is provided timing. So no, you can't take the shove when you want on your turn. It can only happen after the trigger gives it to you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, no. Lack of forbiddance does not mean you can do it. That's not how rules and games work. If the game doesn't forbid something and you think it should be allowed, you have to create a house rule to allow it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7775640, member: 23751"] You keep saying this as if it means something. It really doesn't. A failure to forbid does not equate to approval. The game also fails to forbid my longsword from detonating a nuclear explosion when I strike something. Am I to believe that because the game doesn't forbid it, I can do it? That's not how games and rules work. If it's not forbidden by a rule, you still can't do it unless you can show a rule that does allow you to do it. There is no rule allowing simultaneous actions in combat. The closest you will find is the rule on Attack actions which says through it's use of "with" that the first attack happens simultaneously with the Attack action being taken. As I pointed out above, this is just wrong. I mean, there's also a complete absence of a rule forbidding my fighter from teleporting at will, or engaging a special ability to give him a billion extra hit points. According to your statement above that means he can do those things. Except that Shield Master requires you to take the Attack action first, which is provided timing. So no, you can't take the shove when you want on your turn. It can only happen after the trigger gives it to you. Again, no. Lack of forbiddance does not mean you can do it. That's not how rules and games work. If the game doesn't forbid something and you think it should be allowed, you have to create a house rule to allow it. [/QUOTE]
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