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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8156131" data-attributes="member: 72555">Invisibility is worth 2 AC.&nbsp; Blurred movement is worse.18 is 5 over 23, so only 2 steps.Defensive CR is 1/2.&nbsp; Offensive is 5 as noted.Average is 2.&nbsp; Published as a 1.(a) as noted the DMG rules are an approximation of their internal ones, (b) this is off by 1 CR, (c) I asked for 5 for a reason.&nbsp; I have no doubt there are a few monsters with CR that is off.&nbsp; The least bad of the 5 worst you can find produces a reasonable bound on how bad 5e calculation is.For the quickling, a party of +5 to hit L2 PCs needs 1.5 hits to drop it.&nbsp; At 16 AC and disadvantage, that is 0.25 hits per attack, so 6 attacks to drop it.&nbsp; A party of 4 drops it after 1.5 rounds using at-will stuff.(If someone has a non-dex save cantrip, faster).It gets 5 swings (high initiative) for 36 total damage at +8 to hit.&nbsp; That is nasty.&nbsp; And lots of taps for near instant kills on downed foes.&nbsp; An ogre lasting 3 rounds does 39 at +6, and is a legit CR 2.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 8156131, member: 72555"] Invisibility is worth 2 AC. Blurred movement is worse. 18 is 5 over 23, so only 2 steps. Defensive CR is 1/2. Offensive is 5 as noted. Average is 2. Published as a 1. (a) as noted the DMG rules are an approximation of their internal ones, (b) this is off by 1 CR, (c) I asked for 5 for a reason. I have no doubt there are a few monsters with CR that is off. The least bad of the 5 worst you can find produces a reasonable bound on how bad 5e calculation is. For the quickling, a party of +5 to hit L2 PCs needs 1.5 hits to drop it. At 16 AC and disadvantage, that is 0.25 hits per attack, so 6 attacks to drop it. A party of 4 drops it after 1.5 rounds using at-will stuff. (If someone has a non-dex save cantrip, faster). It gets 5 swings (high initiative) for 36 total damage at +8 to hit. That is nasty. And lots of taps for near instant kills on downed foes. An ogre lasting 3 rounds does 39 at +6, and is a legit CR 2. [/QUOTE]

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