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<blockquote data-quote="Fabio Andrea Rossi" data-source="post: 4520562" data-attributes="member: 67378"><p><strong>A romantic view on D&D and DDM</strong></p><p></p><p>My two cents...</p><p> </p><p>To tell the truth, I never was into the DDM game, I liked its flavor but I never found the time to dedicate to another fantasy game thing.</p><p>Yet, I did appreciate the minis for RPG purposes, and I did appreciate very much the really really low prices of the minis.</p><p>I did not appreciate, as a DM, the randomness of the minis, because as a DM I do not like some kind of monsters and never use them, and I ended up having many unuseful minis, while missing and having to buy at high prices on secondary markets the minis I really wanted.</p><p> </p><p>All of the most interesting and favourite monsters (mind flayers, beholders...you know them, they are your old time friends too) were at least rare, which meant that either you had to spend hundreds of dollars (well, euros) on random miniatures to get those needed pieces or you had to resort to secondary market, and if you scan ebay you'll find that, while there are some cool minis at low prices, most spectacular monsters have prices higher than 15 dollars each (one single mini).</p><p> </p><p>When 4ed came out, with all the reliance on the mins (a reliance I'm not totally into: I'd have preferred Wotc came out with some way to play at least minor combats without resorting to battlemaps. i know I can make this up, but I'd had preferred to have this done by professional designers), many people debated the need of non random minis, for pcs, for main monsters, for common ones.</p><p> </p><p>It was even stated that this was some kind of "right", considered the new heavily mini aspect of the game.</p><p> </p><p>Now, Wotc went just in that direction, and I can't wait to but that Beholder Hive mother, I will finally choose and buy what I need, and what I bought from ebay before.</p><p> </p><p>So, as a D&D rpg gamer I plaud to this choice.</p><p>I do understand the grievance of the DDM players (even if, like 3 or 3.5 users, I do think there's a lot of good material to still be found: I bought a PS2 years later its release to be able to choos a ton of great games at low price) , but I'm not a DDM player and finally also people like me can find in DDM what they were looking for.</p><p> </p><p>Considering that this position no later than a couple of months ago was a common one, I guess that the internet ramblings will happen whatever choice is made, so yes, I prefer a company making sensed choices, allowing them to produce material I like and I can choose not to buy when I don't.</p><p> </p><p>It just seems unfair to me that all of the people asking for this change then are now silent.</p><p> </p><p>I don't like the price increase, but it's a minor trade off, perhaps because when I was younger the only miniatures were metal unpainted Ral Partha ones, very very cool, but much more costly and much less representative of actual monsters, surely not at these prices.</p><p> </p><p>I don't like all of Wotc choices (especially not the lost magic of subsystems and magic users, nor the heavy minis reliance, nor the slow paced mechanics of most monsters) but I like many others , and in my opinion it is great to have people in Wotcs actually caring enough to explain the moves they make, and I really believe that Wotc D&D team are evidently people who care about the game, a read of Races&Classes shows much dedication and love for the game, not only the multinational money grinder kind of company that is the object of much hate on many boards.</p><p> </p><p>I am a long time player, I started with the old red box when in Italy nearly nobody knew the game and I think I personally introduced to the game way more than a hundred people, I do understand and agree on some of the displeasure of old gamers with the new D&D choices, but I also can't ignore the great and obviuos benefits that are being served to us, in the form of abundant good products that experienced DMs like us can model in exactely what we want. </p><p> </p><p>We'll never be 100% satisfied wit another imagination's work, that's why we are the Dms.</p><p> </p><p>Now, if only that GSL was made such to allow third party to give their support to the game like in the past, that would be perfect...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Sorry if I divagated a bit!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fabio Andrea Rossi, post: 4520562, member: 67378"] [b]A romantic view on D&D and DDM[/b] My two cents... To tell the truth, I never was into the DDM game, I liked its flavor but I never found the time to dedicate to another fantasy game thing. Yet, I did appreciate the minis for RPG purposes, and I did appreciate very much the really really low prices of the minis. I did not appreciate, as a DM, the randomness of the minis, because as a DM I do not like some kind of monsters and never use them, and I ended up having many unuseful minis, while missing and having to buy at high prices on secondary markets the minis I really wanted. All of the most interesting and favourite monsters (mind flayers, beholders...you know them, they are your old time friends too) were at least rare, which meant that either you had to spend hundreds of dollars (well, euros) on random miniatures to get those needed pieces or you had to resort to secondary market, and if you scan ebay you'll find that, while there are some cool minis at low prices, most spectacular monsters have prices higher than 15 dollars each (one single mini). When 4ed came out, with all the reliance on the mins (a reliance I'm not totally into: I'd have preferred Wotc came out with some way to play at least minor combats without resorting to battlemaps. i know I can make this up, but I'd had preferred to have this done by professional designers), many people debated the need of non random minis, for pcs, for main monsters, for common ones. It was even stated that this was some kind of "right", considered the new heavily mini aspect of the game. Now, Wotc went just in that direction, and I can't wait to but that Beholder Hive mother, I will finally choose and buy what I need, and what I bought from ebay before. So, as a D&D rpg gamer I plaud to this choice. I do understand the grievance of the DDM players (even if, like 3 or 3.5 users, I do think there's a lot of good material to still be found: I bought a PS2 years later its release to be able to choos a ton of great games at low price) , but I'm not a DDM player and finally also people like me can find in DDM what they were looking for. Considering that this position no later than a couple of months ago was a common one, I guess that the internet ramblings will happen whatever choice is made, so yes, I prefer a company making sensed choices, allowing them to produce material I like and I can choose not to buy when I don't. It just seems unfair to me that all of the people asking for this change then are now silent. I don't like the price increase, but it's a minor trade off, perhaps because when I was younger the only miniatures were metal unpainted Ral Partha ones, very very cool, but much more costly and much less representative of actual monsters, surely not at these prices. I don't like all of Wotc choices (especially not the lost magic of subsystems and magic users, nor the heavy minis reliance, nor the slow paced mechanics of most monsters) but I like many others , and in my opinion it is great to have people in Wotcs actually caring enough to explain the moves they make, and I really believe that Wotc D&D team are evidently people who care about the game, a read of Races&Classes shows much dedication and love for the game, not only the multinational money grinder kind of company that is the object of much hate on many boards. I am a long time player, I started with the old red box when in Italy nearly nobody knew the game and I think I personally introduced to the game way more than a hundred people, I do understand and agree on some of the displeasure of old gamers with the new D&D choices, but I also can't ignore the great and obviuos benefits that are being served to us, in the form of abundant good products that experienced DMs like us can model in exactely what we want. We'll never be 100% satisfied wit another imagination's work, that's why we are the Dms. Now, if only that GSL was made such to allow third party to give their support to the game like in the past, that would be perfect... Sorry if I divagated a bit! [/QUOTE]
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