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<blockquote data-quote="Jhaelen" data-source="post: 4389720" data-attributes="member: 46713">I've already figured that in. That's why I wrote: The numbers I arrived at in the last three lines assume the average probability of success if every skill check is made by the one with the best chance, i.e. 78%, 88%, and 98%, respectively.The introductory comparison was just meant to demonstrate how big the variance can be. It's why I assume the DC numbers were chosen with a single skill check in mind, not a skill challenge involving several checks.What WotC seems to keep overlooking is that you _cannot_ use the same DC numbers for single skill checks and skill challenges; especially since you're longer required to participate in the latter.There's several possibilities how to get the DC numbers and probabilities right for skill challenges. I'm not sure yet, which ones to use.I also dislike that after the errata, 'skill focus' went from a must-have feat to a feat that is completely worthless.It's further obvious they didn't fix all of the DCs that should have been affected, e.g. the ones for the traps. There's definitely further errata required.These errata have been a classical case of overcompensation:It definitely reminded me of 'balance patches' for computer rpgs:If people are complaining that class X is too strong vs. class Y, they'll typically make class X stronger vs. class Y _AND_ class Y weaker vs. class X, thus reversing the original problem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jhaelen, post: 4389720, member: 46713"] I've already figured that in. That's why I wrote: The numbers I arrived at in the last three lines assume the average probability of success if every skill check is made by the one with the best chance, i.e. 78%, 88%, and 98%, respectively. The introductory comparison was just meant to demonstrate how big the variance can be. It's why I assume the DC numbers were chosen with a single skill check in mind, not a skill challenge involving several checks. What WotC seems to keep overlooking is that you _cannot_ use the same DC numbers for single skill checks and skill challenges; especially since you're longer required to participate in the latter. There's several possibilities how to get the DC numbers and probabilities right for skill challenges. I'm not sure yet, which ones to use. I also dislike that after the errata, 'skill focus' went from a must-have feat to a feat that is completely worthless. It's further obvious they didn't fix all of the DCs that should have been affected, e.g. the ones for the traps. There's definitely further errata required. These errata have been a classical case of overcompensation: It definitely reminded me of 'balance patches' for computer rpgs: If people are complaining that class X is too strong vs. class Y, they'll typically make class X stronger vs. class Y _AND_ class Y weaker vs. class X, thus reversing the original problem. [/QUOTE]

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