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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Zardoz" data-source="post: 4390130" data-attributes="member: 704">I agree that the need for any reworking of this system is a huge pain in the ass.However, the basic upshot is that if you consider 4th edition to be like a car, this problem is no more serious than a broken tail light.&nbsp; Fixing this problem is not especially intrusive.&nbsp; Swapping out a broken tail light is pretty simple.&nbsp; Having to replace the engine / transmission / brakes is not.We know how to scale the DC's as the players go up in level.&nbsp; All we need to do is decide which system of checks gives you the desired success / failure rate, and what DC's are reasonable for letting an untrained PC have a reasonable chance without making a challenge trivial given the presence of trained PCs.At the moment, I am convinced that the Skill Challenge system is going to be the one thing that will get the most custom revisions in this verison of the game.&nbsp; And I am also convinced that this is not really a bad thing.END COMMUNICATION</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Zardoz, post: 4390130, member: 704"] I agree that the need for any reworking of this system is a huge pain in the ass. However, the basic upshot is that if you consider 4th edition to be like a car, this problem is no more serious than a broken tail light. Fixing this problem is not especially intrusive. Swapping out a broken tail light is pretty simple. Having to replace the engine / transmission / brakes is not. We know how to scale the DC's as the players go up in level. All we need to do is decide which system of checks gives you the desired success / failure rate, and what DC's are reasonable for letting an untrained PC have a reasonable chance without making a challenge trivial given the presence of trained PCs. At the moment, I am convinced that the Skill Challenge system is going to be the one thing that will get the most custom revisions in this verison of the game. And I am also convinced that this is not really a bad thing. END COMMUNICATION [/QUOTE]

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