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Official ruling on Dispel Magic vs. Etherealness?
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<blockquote data-quote="jmourao" data-source="post: 5722538" data-attributes="member: 42415"><p>Hello, everyone! (^_^)</p><p></p><p>Recently, in my gaming group, there was a bit of an argument about the effect of a <em>dispel</em> magic spell on an ethereal creature.</p><p></p><p>The creature we were fighting had cast <em>etherealness</em> (PHB, p228) on itself, preventing the PCs, who were on the Material Plane, from directly attacking it. Our arcane spellcaster wanted to cast an <em>area dispel</em>, hoping to end the etherealness spell and bring the creature back to the Material Plane. But our DM ruled that only a <em>targeted dispel</em> would work. He based this decision on his interpretation of the following part of the <em>ehtereal jaunt</em> spell, on which <em>etheralnes</em> is based:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>He argued that an <em>area dispel</em> does not target the creature directly. Obviously, we pointed out the rest of the text, which says that abjuration effects extend onto the Ethereal Plane. We argued that the area targeted by the <em>area dispel</em> would be the same on both planes, but he refused to accept our argument. Since he was the DM, we had to abide by his decision.</p><p></p><p>My question is: is there any <strong>official</strong> ruling on this matter? Was it ever covered by the Sage Advice column?</p><p></p><p>I tried to find more details on this situation, but the passages I found pretty much just say the same as above:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To me, and my fellow players (and most people on this forum, from what I could find), it seems reasonably clear that an <em>area dispel</em> CAN affect ethereal creatures, provided they are inside the area of effect. But I'd like to have an official ruling, to try (again) to convince our DM. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p><p></p><p>Thanks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmourao, post: 5722538, member: 42415"] Hello, everyone! (^_^) Recently, in my gaming group, there was a bit of an argument about the effect of a [i]dispel[/i] magic spell on an ethereal creature. The creature we were fighting had cast [I]etherealness[/I] (PHB, p228) on itself, preventing the PCs, who were on the Material Plane, from directly attacking it. Our arcane spellcaster wanted to cast an [I]area dispel[/I], hoping to end the etherealness spell and bring the creature back to the Material Plane. But our DM ruled that only a [I]targeted dispel[/I] would work. He based this decision on his interpretation of the following part of the [I]ehtereal jaunt[/I] spell, on which [i]etheralnes[/i] is based: He argued that an [I]area dispel[/I] does not target the creature directly. Obviously, we pointed out the rest of the text, which says that abjuration effects extend onto the Ethereal Plane. We argued that the area targeted by the [I]area dispel[/I] would be the same on both planes, but he refused to accept our argument. Since he was the DM, we had to abide by his decision. My question is: is there any [B]official[/B] ruling on this matter? Was it ever covered by the Sage Advice column? I tried to find more details on this situation, but the passages I found pretty much just say the same as above: To me, and my fellow players (and most people on this forum, from what I could find), it seems reasonably clear that an [I]area dispel[/I] CAN affect ethereal creatures, provided they are inside the area of effect. But I'd like to have an official ruling, to try (again) to convince our DM. :-) Thanks! [/QUOTE]
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