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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 2770681" data-attributes="member: 70">I'm mixed about "fixing" crippled content.  The idea appeals, but more out of spite than any actual value.  Secondly, that material is more likely to provoke a challenge from a publisher than "standard" OGC.  While we might be confident in our legal rights, that doesn't mean I want to be footing the bill for a lawyer if someone decides to push the issue.</blockquote>We'd have to define what's acceptable and what's not pretty carefully, but there's no reason we couldn't approach publishers about releasing certain mechanics.Offhand, I'd limit initial submissions to 1) author/owner submitted material based on the SRD or other acceptable sources, 2) OGC material released for free in a distributable format (I'm thinking rtf or pdf; trolling the internet and yanking OGC off of websites is potentially bad press) and based on the SRD or other acceptable sources, 3) material authorized for release by the publisher and based on the SRD or other permitted sources.It would start off at a disadvantage, but the more publishers we could get to voluntarily sign up, the better off we'd be.  And since it approaches them in a cooperative, rather than adversarial, manner, and they can greenlight specific products (or even product sections), it's possible cooperation could be significant.  Even better if well-regarded authors approach publishers about material they wrote under contract (I'm thinking about Mike Mearls, here).The only questionmark in my mind right now is for Unearthed Arcana.  I think of UA as an addendum to the SRD, but that's just my view, and it's a bit presumptive to treat WotC's material different from everyone else's.I'm not fond of allowing publisher "recall", though.  First of all, it's a little bit late, second everything would be legally released, third it'll potentially turn the wiki into a giant preview/testing ground, fourth it'll be a huge, and I mean huge, hassle.Should material written by someone else (when the material was available), but based on the recalled OGC also be recalled?"Evil", by AEG, is listed in the S.15 of almost every subsequent product they did.  If AEG gives permission to present OGC from "Evil", and subsequently asks that it be returned to "unauthorized" status, that'd invalidate nearly everything in the AEG line (and most of my stuff).It's better, and simpler, to have a "no backsies" policy.It's also important to remember that we wouldn't be asking for special permissions from publishers.  Publishers don't have a right to withhold OGC.  We'd be voluntarily restricting on the OGC we take, and we can reserve the right to rescind or amend that policy.  If we  extract OGC from a source we ordinarily wouldn't, it's within our rights to do so (but that would have to be exercised very cautiously.  I think public & publisher opinion are the keystones of this project).Gotta go to my paying job now.  20 degrees Farenheit, not counting wind chill, and I'll be outside installing windows.CheersNell.[/QUOTE]

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