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<blockquote data-quote="jgbrowning" data-source="post: 2771200" data-attributes="member: 5724"><p>This is what some publishers note about threads such as this. Odd, that a publisher who released OPEN material who then had someone release that material for FREE would be accused of being draconian by reducing the amount of OGC in future releases.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying, you're saying that. I'm simply saying that you're correct in that some people would regard such an action the the light you're portraying.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is because they don't understand the difference between OPEN and FREE. The only OGC released that was intended to be free is the OGC that was released free by the publisher. Every other bit of OGC was released as OPEN.</p><p></p><p>Someone else can take OPEN and turn it into FREE, but that's obviously not what any creator intended through using the liscense, unless the creator made the OGC FREE to begin with.</p><p></p><p>People may try to argue otherwise, but intent is clear and obvious. If it was made FREE it was intended to be FREE: if it was only made OPEN it was intended to be OPEN. What the next person down the line does with that OPEN material is up to them. The license gives that power to the next person, it doesn't make anything FREE and it never will. Making something FREE is only an individual's decision and not an expectation/requirement/expected outcome of the license.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Obligations? The only obligations of the OGL are to follow the license properly. If you're referring to something else, you should be more clear. If you're referring to the "desire people have to get stuff others created and opened under the OGL for free and how people think those creators aren't being nice by preferring to be paid instead of working for free" you need to state that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't worry about an OGC Wiki because I know what it would result in.... less OGC, greater acrimony between the creators of OGC and the users of the material, and more than likely reduced sales for certain products at least.</p><p></p><p>I'm glad you're trying to think of workable possiblities which would please everyone, but it's not a win-win situation and probably will never be. Making something FREE that was not created FREE fiscally devalues the worth of the the work and material. Eventually, one wonders if anyone would be terribly willing to pay for any electronic medium OGC once they've been inculturated in the use and belief that OGC material is and should be FREE.</p><p></p><p>joe b.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgbrowning, post: 2771200, member: 5724"] This is what some publishers note about threads such as this. Odd, that a publisher who released OPEN material who then had someone release that material for FREE would be accused of being draconian by reducing the amount of OGC in future releases. I'm not saying, you're saying that. I'm simply saying that you're correct in that some people would regard such an action the the light you're portraying. This is because they don't understand the difference between OPEN and FREE. The only OGC released that was intended to be free is the OGC that was released free by the publisher. Every other bit of OGC was released as OPEN. Someone else can take OPEN and turn it into FREE, but that's obviously not what any creator intended through using the liscense, unless the creator made the OGC FREE to begin with. People may try to argue otherwise, but intent is clear and obvious. If it was made FREE it was intended to be FREE: if it was only made OPEN it was intended to be OPEN. What the next person down the line does with that OPEN material is up to them. The license gives that power to the next person, it doesn't make anything FREE and it never will. Making something FREE is only an individual's decision and not an expectation/requirement/expected outcome of the license. Obligations? The only obligations of the OGL are to follow the license properly. If you're referring to something else, you should be more clear. If you're referring to the "desire people have to get stuff others created and opened under the OGL for free and how people think those creators aren't being nice by preferring to be paid instead of working for free" you need to state that. I don't worry about an OGC Wiki because I know what it would result in.... less OGC, greater acrimony between the creators of OGC and the users of the material, and more than likely reduced sales for certain products at least. I'm glad you're trying to think of workable possiblities which would please everyone, but it's not a win-win situation and probably will never be. Making something FREE that was not created FREE fiscally devalues the worth of the the work and material. Eventually, one wonders if anyone would be terribly willing to pay for any electronic medium OGC once they've been inculturated in the use and belief that OGC material is and should be FREE. joe b. [/QUOTE]
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